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Rufus 08-15-2017 06:42 PM

Klutch MIG/Stick 220Si 230V Multi-Process Welder with Spool Gun — 230V, 140 Amp
 
Hi all:
This stick welder/mig welder is made by "Klutch". Is Klutch any good? I would like to buy this in the future if it's any good.

Thanks
Tim

Klutch MIG/Stick 220Si 230V Multi-Process Welder with Spool Gun — 230V, 140 Amp

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...BoCWtYQAvD_BwE

milomilo 08-15-2017 08:55 PM

I see it only has a 30% duty cycle. That would not be good enough for me. I would not get anything less than a 60% duty cycle.

Matt Shade 08-15-2017 09:16 PM

Duty cycle is a valid point, but I paid $1350 for my powermig 210mp and it only has a 40 percent duty cycle. Sometimes you have to compromise a little bit. These welders are meant to be portable and shouldn't be expected to keep up with a shop unit that weighs 250 lbs.

I know absolutely nothing about klutch, so take this for what its worth. I like the specs on that machine, and think if they have a good reputation it would make a great machine for a DIY type person who just wants to weld at home.

If you plan to use it professionally, I would step up to the lincoln 210MP, or the miller multimatic 215. Both of these machines have dual voltage capability, which makes them much more flexible for portable work, and they both will have much better product support due to the number of dealers around.

Rufus 08-15-2017 09:55 PM

I am not to sure as to whether or not I would use it professionally. I like the fact that it is both a mig welder and a stick welder. I suppose, if need be, I could stick weld with it up to maybe 5/16 inch plate with it. I like the price seeing it is both a mig/stick welder.

Thanks
Tim

digr 08-15-2017 10:03 PM

Don't you already have a stick welder?

Rufus 08-16-2017 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digr (Post 692050)
Don't you already have a stick welder?

I have my Miller Thunderbolt, Lincoln AC 225/DC 125, Lincoln Power Arc 4000 and the Miller 225 NT Bobcat (needs new carburetor and battery) so, yeah. Already have a stick welder, but I was thinking you could never have to many.

Thanks
Tim

Shade Tree Welder 08-16-2017 07:43 AM

I am sure it is just another rebadged chink-o-matic. But hey there is a place for Chinese products. I have some and they fit my needs, I do not have high expectations for them.

Concerns I would have...
  • Low duty cycle as mentioned
  • Availability of consumables
  • Availability of parts, drive rolls, liners, gun parts etc.
  • Warrantee coverage, they say 3 years can you trust it?

I had a warrantee concern on my TB 302 gas, I had the replacement part
next day aired to me, no cost. I was a design issued with one of the boards;
I replaced it with the newer upgraded board. I lost less than 24 hours of
production.

2 years ago I had issues with me MM 350P, called Miller, had a solution in less
than 5 minutes. The machine was way out of warrantee.

USMCPOP 08-16-2017 07:51 AM

Scott V (aka Brand X) has one, and maybe the MIG 140SI as well. See this thread:

http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...ghlight=klutch

Rufus 08-16-2017 11:17 AM

I have been told, a lot, to stay away from Lincoln mig welders. A company I use to work for told me that they would never use Lincoln mig welders in the weld shop. They used Miller welders. I don't know why they would tell me that. I would like to own a Hobart 210 MVP. That way, if need be, I can take it to a job site that doesn't have 240 and I can use it in the Tinkering Area with 240. True, they do cost a little more, but on the other hand I believe that it would be worth owning. I would be able to use it for Push Mower and Lawn Tractor deck repair among other things.

Thanks
Tim

Shade Tree Welder 08-16-2017 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 692091)
I have been told, a lot, to stay away from Lincoln mig welders.

Since they purchased Century, I would agree when you are discussing the low
end of the market, but when you get to the light industrial and industrial
machines, I would have no issues with Lincoln, and that is from a guy who
owns all blue. When you are looking at the domestically produced machines,
Lincoln makes a good product.


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