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allessence 08-27-2016 08:45 PM

Buffalo Silent 200 16" blower
 
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I was parusine ebay doing the usual looking for stuff I don't need..

I came across a 16" Buffalo Silent 200.. As most of you know I prefer the Buffalo silent 200 hand crank blowers over any other brand or model..

Anyhow, I could hardly belive my eyes.. A 16".. Never heard they made one that big..

So, I put to work to figure out the mystery.. Turns out Buffalo Forge and blower company did make a 16" blower for 2 years.. It was special order and in the 38 years of me doing this work I had never seen one or heard of one..

The guy wanted way to much money for a forge and blower so I made an offer which got turned down..

I followed the items through multiple ebay listings and made offers when the items would come up for bid/offers..

the price kept dropping..

Anyhow when it got to 398.00 or make offer I offered 350.00 thinking I could sell the forge for 100.00 and this would bring the cost of the blower down to 250.00+ shipping..

Only catch was it was local pickup only.. I really didn't want to purchase a non working blower but the guy though reluctant to post any extra pictures or supply me with any other info was a huge red flag, but I couldn't help myself..

I called my buddy Clint who lives in the area of Fort Worth, TX about 15minutes from the person selling the stuff and asked if he would be willing to pick the stuff up and ship me the blower till I could find time to get down there and pick up the forge.. Turns out he needed the forge for his firepot he bought 20 years ago.. Clint was my striker for nearly 10 years.. He started when he was about 13 years old.. His favorite hammer was the 16lbs sledge and he could swing it all day..

I was tough to work for way back then..

Anyhow, the blower is beat.. It looks like the housing filled up with water and rusted and besides that.. the guy selling it fucked it up by drilling out the input gear as the shaft was worn and instead of fixing it right he drilled and tapped the hole larger.. Makes me wanna punch him in the face.. Why do people do stupid stuff..

Sorry,, Nothing worse than a bad fix..

So, today I spent some time cleaning and tearing it apart to see just how bad of shape its in.. It's pretty bad.. Looks like it has a million cycles on it with bad or no oil.. all the bushing are shot, all the gears are worn, and all the bearings are rusted past being serviceable except in armageddon/apocalypse type place/time..

It needs a complete rebuild.. The gears I think I can get to work and be a decent sounding blower but they gears are 50% worn.. Had I picked up the blower in person I would have cancelled the deal and walked away feeling okay about it..

So, now I have the complete early line of Silent 200 blowers.. the 16" was made 1901 and 1902.. I have a 12", 14" and 16".. Cast iron housings.. They made a silent 200 in a pressed steel housing which is not so good..

You can see the damage that was not disclosed when I asked the guy what kind of shape it was in... Usable condition was his reply..

You can also see how much bigger the gear cover is vs the 14"..

allessence 08-27-2016 08:54 PM

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Looks like the people who owned this weren't very good at fixing stuff even way back..

Poor blower.. wonder what kind of items the person made who owned the blower..

You can see where instead of driving out the tapered pin, the idiot just drilled the hole bigger and threaded it.. He replaced the shaft but,, argh. !@#@$%%^%.. Mother#$%TT^^^^%#$W5re..

LOL.. Okay sorry.. just venting my frustration.. I'll behave now..

Someone had banged the end of the shaft with a hammer so the shaft was damaged.. I had to file it back down to size to get the fan off..

allessence 08-27-2016 09:05 PM

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And, the rest for tonight..

By the way I just like to say as an expression about poking someone in the eye or punching in the face.. I really don't have an assaulting bone in my body..

midmosandblasting 08-27-2016 09:18 PM

Some people definition of usable is a lot different than others.Now you know why it kept coming up and why no more pictures were offered.

toprecycler 08-27-2016 10:11 PM

Sometimes you gamble and lose, when you can't get all the info that easily sent in today's age. But if anyone can bring it back to life, I know it is you Jennifer.

Brian

kiwi 08-27-2016 10:27 PM

Jenn,
Did you give him the appropriate feedback for his eBay account?

Scotts 08-28-2016 07:41 AM

Hey Jen,

Here is a series of videos where Keith Rucker rebuilt a blower.

Scott

allessence 08-28-2016 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by midmosandblasting (Post 668662)
Some people definition of usable is a lot different than others.Now you know why it kept coming up and why no more pictures were offered.

You said a mouth full there.. One level of someones opinion of useable...

I kind of figured as much.. Not new to Ebay but was hopeful.. :)

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Originally Posted by toprecycler (Post 668667)
Sometimes you gamble and lose, when you can't get all the info that easily sent in today's age. But if anyone can bring it back to life, I know it is you Jennifer.

Brian

I am hopeful.. And besides that I might be an excellent learning lesson.. I've always wanted to learn how to cut gears..

The tough one will be the pinion gear as its helical cut.. :eek:

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Originally Posted by kiwi (Post 668670)
Jenn,
Did you give him the appropriate feedback for his eBay account?

I was to late.. I did email him and tell him how I felt about the exchange and how I felt shystered.. By the time I received the blower it was a few months after the auction. So no feedback..

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Originally Posted by Scotts (Post 668682)
Hey Jen,

Here is a series of videos where Keith Rucker rebuilt a blower.

Scott

Nice find.. I watched part of it and the lathe work I think I can handle.. The gear cutting not so sure yet.. I'll get the bushings made and the pinion bearings replaced then I'll see how things sound.. If all good I'll put it back together but if it's noisier than I like well then it will be gear time..

Helical gear on the bottom might be out of my realm of ability.. So will see.. Keep your fingers crossed..

AJinNZ 08-29-2016 08:57 AM

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I really don't have an assaulting bone in my body..
Well, you could send your mate back round there and get him to take his 16 pound sledge with him. :devil: :D

Shade Tree Welder 08-29-2016 09:28 AM

Some people should not be allowed near tools...

Sent from the great beyond...


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