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Old 04-07-2017, 07:02 PM
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Default How to forge a Fancy colonial spoon..

How to on making a spoon.. This will be the match to the fork and i will forge a knife and holder next for a complete set..

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Old 04-07-2017, 09:02 PM
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Hi,
I broke down and bought a swedge block!

It does come in handy at times!

I enjoy making REAL fireplace sets!
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Old 04-07-2017, 09:11 PM
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Nice.. How much? Where did you order it from? did you recognize the tool I used on the anvil for the shaping of the spoon bowl????

I have 3 of them.. The spoon sets I am talking about are a little different than a simple swage or swage block..

All food items should have polished tines, bowls etc, etc.. So to make spoons for sale they really should be formed in one heat or ideally cold after cleaning and polishing..

All of my spooning tools are out in the back 40 and I imagine by now have large rust pits in them..

Post up a pick of the fireplace sets.. Would be great to see.. Start a thread I'm sure everybody would love to see them.. Good group on here interested in forged items..
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Old 04-08-2017, 11:24 AM
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Hi,
I'm with a new job and to busy to work my forge now.

That will probably have to wait till I retire?

Here is a link to this swedge block!

It has gone up in price since I bought mine!

There will always be some "Whitesmithing" for utensils!

http://www.centaurforge.com/Centaur-...1TXBoCPKbw_wcB

http://ruralblacksmith.blogspot.com/...mith-shop.html
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I'm with a new job and to busy to work my forge now.

That will probably have to wait till I retire?

Here is a link to this swedge block!

It has gone up in price since I bought mine!

There will always be some "Whitesmithing" for utensils!

http://www.centaurforge.com/Centaur-...1TXBoCPKbw_wcB

http://ruralblacksmith.blogspot.com/...mith-shop.html
New England Blacksmith's also sell one..
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My attack thoughts are attacking my invulnerability.

I'd like to think of something smart, but I don't want to hurt myself.

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Old 04-11-2017, 05:18 PM
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Hi,
I think way back when someone had a mold and was making them when I was heavy into ABANA/FABA!

I think I bought mine new as I was not happy using a wooden stump and wanted something that was more stable and didn't burn!

I had a Little Giant 25# Hammer that I bought at a FABA meet from a knife maker in Georgia!

It had been rode hard and put up wet, as they say!

I pulled some shims from the babbet bearings to tighten it up.

Made a new clutch rod and used it for about 10 years making Pattern Weld/ Damascus!

Sold it to a Dentist for about $200 more than I payed for it and bought a Bridgeport Mill.

Think I might try making one of the Clay Spencer Tire Hammers later when I get time.

They work like a Little Giant, but are a lot cheaper these days!!!

Seems everything in Blacksmithing has gone sky high these days!
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Old 04-11-2017, 06:43 PM
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Hi,
I think way back when someone had a mold and was making them when I was heavy into ABANA/FABA!

I think I bought mine new as I was not happy using a wooden stump and wanted something that was more stable and didn't burn!

I had a Little Giant 25# Hammer that I bought at a FABA meet from a knife maker in Georgia!

It had been rode hard and put up wet, as they say!

I pulled some shims from the babbet bearings to tighten it up.

Made a new clutch rod and used it for about 10 years making Pattern Weld/ Damascus!

Sold it to a Dentist for about $200 more than I payed for it and bought a Bridgeport Mill.

Think I might try making one of the Clay Spencer Tire Hammers later when I get time.

They work like a Little Giant, but are a lot cheaper these days!!!

Seems everything in Blacksmithing has gone sky high these days!
I used to use forms and wooden forms for years.. Problem is most the stuff like that has lived outside for the past 10 years and the other day I went looking for some stuff and it was all rusted away..

When I was in the trailer which is where all the videos have been filmed I was just to lazy to go and find something else.. Not only that, I like my spoons smooth and I didn't have any hammers with the right radius..

I'll get one of the blocks for the trailer from NEB at the Spring meet.. It's reasonable priced.. Good for all around stuff.. But ideally a spoon swage setup makes smooth bowls and it really speeds up the process..

Using the swage you can usually take a very light heat.. In it goes and with only a few hits it's completed and the scale that was formed during heating is usually knocked off..

As for the Power hammer to day for any long term work they are a must.. Damascus of course is expedited with a hammer and Hydraulic press.. Funny how people used to be happy with a power hammer..


Sometime this summer the NEB group is doing a build of the Spencer hammer.. I'm going to build one for the fun of it.. Ideally I will get back my 200 Fairbanks from the guy who I sold it to when I closed up shop.. Well he actually said to come and get it.. .. Good guy..

Everything is expensive everywhere.. Nothing is reasonably priced anymore..
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My attack thoughts are attacking my invulnerability.

I'd like to think of something smart, but I don't want to hurt myself.

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Old 04-11-2017, 08:33 PM
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I guess the easiest/cheapest way to build a tire hammer...

Is in one of Clay's Workshops?

I think the biggest hassle is gathering up all the steel you need.

I do have 3 different welders, lathe, mill, horizontal commercial saw, plasma cutter, ect. ect.

I found a great deal on a Hypertherm 45 and tried to get my workplace to buy one.

They wouldn't spend the bucks, so I bought one for myself!

Just sayin got the tools and can get the metal, but ain't got the time, right now!!!
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Hi,

I guess the easiest/cheapest way to build a tire hammer...



Is in one of Clay's Workshops?



I think the biggest hassle is gathering up all the steel you need.



I do have 3 different welders, lathe, mill, horizontal commercial saw, plasma cutter, ect. ect.



I found a great deal on a Hypertherm 45 and tried to get my workplace to buy one.



They wouldn't spend the bucks, so I bought one for myself!



Just sayin got the tools and can get the metal, but ain't got the time, right now!!!


Ok, I am guessing that that picture is of a steel hammer handle with different heads that you put in as needed? Just slide on and the taper will hold it until you give it a tap in the end to change it?

Saves storage space instead of every hammer having a handle?


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Ok, I am guessing that that picture is of a steel hammer handle with different heads that you put in as needed? Just slide on and the taper will hold it until you give it a tap in the end to change it?

Saves storage space instead of every hammer having a handle?


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No.. It's an eye drift he used to make the eyes of the tools..

We get to see some fine work here.. Much nicer than the stuff I would make.. I don't even bother to polish stuff anymore.. about 120 grit is as good as it gets..

Nice work seagiant.. You would be very disappointed with the tooling i have.. It's all rusty with broken handles some stuff I just use like a punch now..

Very fine work indeed.. Love to see more of it.. Start a thread with items you have made.. I know everybody who is interested in smithing would like to see it as well.. Knives, tools, stuff you have made.
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My attack thoughts are attacking my invulnerability.

I'd like to think of something smart, but I don't want to hurt myself.

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