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Old 10-30-2017, 05:38 PM
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Today I was practicing some welding with the Lincoln and Vulcan welding rods. Both are 3/32 6011 rods and I noticed that the Vulcans were burning kinda hot at 60 amps, so I lowered the amps to 40 amps and they seem to do better. tried the Lincolns and they were constantly sticking. was finally able to get a good run using 75 amps. I also noticed that the Vulcans had a heavier slag coating, almost similar to a 6013. The Lincoln's had a very minute bit of slag. Is this because of the higher temp, that it burned most of the slag off? Thanks
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Old 10-30-2017, 06:05 PM
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While they may run "nicer" what about the deposited metal ?
Can you see what your doing like airco 6011 ?
Or do they leave slag pockets like 6013 ?

And where are they made ?

Seeing how they are "private labelled" will they always be made by the
same vendor ? or will every box be a crap shoot ?
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Old 10-30-2017, 08:32 PM
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once the amperages were adjusted they had a nice bead. still kinda new to welding. so don't know all the terminology. when you say "slag pockets" are you referring to holes in the slag? If so, no, I didn't see any any holes. Thanks for responding. will have to look it up. But the Vulcan rods I assume, are made in India. since their welders are from there I believe.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:14 AM
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Slag pockets are, after you have chipped the slag off, the pockets of slag
left inside the weld bead.

The weld is not continuous.

I would not assume the welding rods are made in India, or that they will remain
consistent from box-to-box.

Are you buying so many rods, that you need to save money ?

The point is, without out expensive testing, welding rods are one item
you end up trusting the manuf., to make a good product.
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Old 10-31-2017, 10:51 AM
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I’m just an old crusty GNAP, that is severely set in my ways, I always what the rod I’m familiar with, I want the Airco/EasyArc/Murex E6011C, Lincoln 6010 5P+, the Lincoln Excalibur 7018, or ESAB AtomArc 7018.

On the mig side, I like Lincoln L-56.

Unless one of the above become unavailable, I’m not switching
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Old 10-31-2017, 11:28 AM
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I’m just an old crusty GNAP, that is severely set in my ways, I always what the rod I’m familiar with, I want the Airco/EasyArc/Murex E6011C, Lincoln 6010 5P+, the Lincoln Excalibur 7018, or ESAB AtomArc 7018.

On the mig side, I like Lincoln L-56.

Unless one of the above become unavailable, I’m not switching
Yabutt...think of all the money you could save....Especially when using the
20% off coupon....
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But did you read the fine print.
A few years back or so I was on the hunt for a cheap Inverter, ended up purchasing one from Craigslist because the fine print on HF coupons exclude Welders.

Looks like they also added brands to the exclusion which includes Vulcan, are all welding consumables at HF now Vulcan?
(Earthquake, Predator, Hercules, Poulan...................) ** It maybe time to use your old coupons that may not have all the exclusions.

The question is will HF/employees catch the exclusions.?
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I'm with Gnap on this one. I've never had to use anything off-branded when it comes to rods or wire. Even being stuck on a Sunday morning and having to rely on a box wood store to fill a need.

I'd like to say I have my freedom of choices with rods, but I'm simple minded and only trust what I know from the past to go by.

I did try wire from HF once and only once, never rods.
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Slag pockets are, after you have chipped the slag off, the pockets of slag
left inside the weld bead.

The weld is not continuous.

I would not assume the welding rods are made in India, or that they will remain
consistent from box-to-box.

Are you buying so many rods, that you need to save money ?

The point is, without out expensive testing, welding rods are one item
you end up trusting the manuf., to make a good product.
there were no holes in the bead run. If I have time tomorrow, will run a bead with the Vulcan rods and post pics. Thanks again for the input. I was curious about the new rods while I was at Harbor freight and decided to try them out.

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Old 11-01-2017, 10:01 AM
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Got a chance to run a bead this morning with the Vulcan rods. I was having a hard time getting the rods to work at 40 amps. had to crank it up to 60, but it appear that the bead was too fluid. once the metal was warmed, I lowered the amps back down to 40. checked the packaging, the Vulcan rods are made in china. that's weird, I had looked up the Vulcan web site, and it had an India address on it. Guess even they're out sourcing to China. here's a pic. the top bead is at 40 amps,m the bottom at 60. here's a pic.
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