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Old 08-29-2017, 07:26 PM
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When I was "on the roof", 7018 vertical up was a breeze with about 70 OPM natural. (oscillations per minuet)
Cause and effect.

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Well now Chief, that's interesting. You may have founded a new art form of Classical Welding.
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Well now Chief, that's interesting. You may have founded a new art form of Classical Welding.

(oscillations per minuet)

And dancing? ..
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Old 08-29-2017, 09:49 PM
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I position both arms/hands in relation to the direction of my personal oscillations. Having a facial tic as well of my left eye and cheek due to head trauma in the military, I have to time things just right while running TIG. Filler entry and torch movement at the right moment while keeping count with the one foot off the pedal.

I can only imagine how bad things would get should I also come down with Turrets in the future.
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I believe they call them cyclones down under...
I've been to and worked in Aussie Land three different times in my life and not once did I ever pay attention to which direction my cig swirled when I flushed the turlet.
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2-3 times a year I will have a little shake when welding. I found that it was mostly caused by squeezing the rod holder too tight. Now when that happens I get all set and squeeze the rod holder then relax the grip and start the arc. Seems to work well for me. Learned that trick when I used to play golf.
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:38 PM
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I have the "shakes" and can do nothing about it.
It is inherited.
From my mothers side.
She and her brothers/sisters had it.
Her mother and aunts.
Her grandmother.
And so forth.
It gets worse as you age.

Sadly, booze doesn’t help.
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I found that ear plugs, sun glasses, 2 boilermakers on the way in, and wrapping the stinger lead 3 times around my stinger hand would quiet the "natural oscillation" to the point I could work.
Man, that sounds like Buckshot and Russel. They would pull onto a job, get hired, then find a house sixty miles away so they could get their first six pack down on the way to work. Small world.
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I have a quick question that I hope you can help me with....Here in North America, when water goes down the drain it goes in a clockwise direction and in Australia it goes in a counter clockwise direction. Here is North America, a tornado goes in a counter clockwise direction and in Australia, a tornado goes in a clockwise direction. Now, with all that said, here in North America, we weld with electrode positive for greater penetration and electrode negative for lesser penetration. In Australia, do you weld with electrode positive for lesser penetration and electrode negative for greater penetration? I just had to ask

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Nominally more peno with + electrode but folks seem to focus way too much on that when current level,electrode presentation angle to the work and a not too fast travel speed have a much greater effect on penetration depth.

Part of the training for coded welder in AUS involved destructive testing of the fillet plates. Students could measure the depth of peno on a ( 12mm) 1/2" Tee fillet as we broke them under the hydraulic press.

The pass requirement was for 2mm min peno which I think is about 3/32". The fillet faces were scored with an A/Grinder to make them break through the weld.

Most of the blokes could manage 1/8" by jamming the LH stick right into the corner,bumping amps to to 140 and dragging the rod at about 85°. Naturally the polarity is electrode +.

The electrode gets real hot and you can only manage halfway before the rod goes red hot and needs changing .It did not matter as the obligatory stop start zone was in the middle anyway and they could change rods for the re start.

Nearly forgot -another sneaky trick to help keep the width regular was to scribe where the toe edges should be. The scribe line reflects the arc a bit and you can weld up to it.

with LH rods keep the plume out of your respiratory space. Maganism is a disease borne of the manganese content of these rods. If you can't afford a fume extractor aim a good size fan on you to
blow the plume out of your welding zone.
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with LH rods keep the plume out of your respiratory space. Maganism is a disease borne of the manganese content of these rods. If you can't afford a fume extractor aim a good size fan on you to
blow the plume out of your welding zone.
I did a search on this and realized a spell issue...manganism.
I have an uncle, welded all his life, and is now in a care facility for Parkinson's. He exhibited all these symptoms in the last few years.
It would be a terrible thing to find out that he could have been helped and was misdiagnosed.
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We call hurricanes cyclones, same as typhoon in asia, tornados we call tornados. I think the water swirls clockwise, buggered if I know actually.
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