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Old 10-12-2017, 04:17 PM
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The GNAP, went to the LWS, to pick up some Sigma Green grinding wheels from Rex-Cut Abrasives and drop off a large check for last months purchases, I also ended buy a new cheap welding jacket and a new Miller Maxstar 161. A 120/240 vac, a 160 amp DC welder, 160 amp output on 240 vac, and 95 amps on 120 vac. With a travel case.

The welder comes with a 12’ ground lead and a 15’ stinger lead, I added Tweco disconnects and an additional 20 feet to each lead. I switched the stinger clamp out to a Jackson unit, that I use on all welders and to the smaller Miller ground clamp, again the GNAP standard. I ran a couple of test sticks, a good solid arc, very similar to the larger Miller Inverter welders I own, like the Maxstar 200DX and the Miller 280 CST.

The welder, power cords, the additional leads and the travel case, tips the scale at 31#. I looking forward to using this welder in the future.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:25 PM
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That's a nice suitcase, you could even have it as carry on luggage in a plane.
I'm sure you feel a little shame, after all the other recent purchases.
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:02 PM
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Miller must dose the blue paint with some GNAP attracting pheromones.....
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:21 PM
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Jack, a few weeks past I was operating one of our manlift's at work to show the mechanic what exactly it was doing.

While standing next to his truck I saw a nice new black plastic case and asked if I could have a look see. It was a brand new 161. He told me that all of their trucks were given one to carry for needs.

I thought it was trick and capable.

Appreciate the review.
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:37 PM
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I ran the new Miller Maxstar 161, for a couple of hours this morning, using some ESAB 3/32” 7018 Atom Arc, some 3/32” 7018 Lincoln Excalibur, some Lincoln 1/8” 5P+ (6010), some 3/32” and 1/8” Murex (EasyArc) 6011C, and finally some 3/32” Allstate 275 S Super (stainless steel repair rod) and 3/32” MG600.

I’m very impressed with the welder, last month I tried, a 110/240 vac ESAB and a 120/240 vac Lincoln welders. I thought the ESAB had a very harsh arc and didn’t run 6010 very well, the Lincoln felt cheesy and wouldn’t run the 6010, very poorly (if at all).

I guy I know just bought on of the upscale Vulcan 165 amp welders from Harbor Freight, I. have not heard of any test results or problems, and at about $600 is roughly half the price of the Miller (with welder and sales tax, I was out the door at about $1050)

Miller makes the Maxstar 161 in about 3-4 different models, stick, stick/tig and a couple of stick/tig models with other advanced features. Based on what I bought it for, I bought it as the pure base stick model, as we never tig in the field, I couldn’t justify the added cost.

So another winner from Miller Welding, at least for me.
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Old 10-13-2017, 02:26 PM
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Jack, one question, you noted that the esab and Lincoln did not run 6010 very well, so did you try 6010 on the miller? You said you ran 6011 on the miller. I understand that a lot of the newer inverter styles do not run the 6010/ 6011 very well, at least when they started coming out years ago. I have a miller Maxstar Stick/Tig at work that is 220v only. I wish it was 110/220. Would make sone of the jobs I go on much easier. Sometimes I only have to weld one post column to a beam, maybe 2 rods at the most, and finding a 220 volt plug on a construction site that I have a plug for is sketchy at best. So I usually drag out the heavy welding leads and run the trailblazer in the work van. Sometimes I will run the maxstar of the trailblazer, but usually best to stick to 3/32” rods otherwise I start tripping the power circuit breakers.


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Old 10-13-2017, 02:29 PM
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Jack, one question, you noted that the esab and Lincoln did not run 6010 very well, so did you try 6010 on the miller? You said you ran 6011 on the miller. I understand that a lot of the newer inverter styles do not run the 6010/ 6011 very well, at least when they started coming out years ago. I have a miller Maxstar Stick/Tig at work that is 220v only. I wish it was 110/220. Would make sone of the jobs I go on much easier. Sometimes I only have to weld one post column to a beam, maybe 2 rods at the most, and finding a 220 volt plug on a construction site that I have a plug for is sketchy at best. So I usually drag out the heavy welding leads and run the trailblazer in the work van. Sometimes I will run the maxstar of the trailblazer, but usually best to stick to 3/32” rods otherwise I start tripping the power circuit breakers.


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Yes I ran 6010, thats the Lincoln 5P+, I went back and clarified the post. There are a couple of kinds of 6010, there is the brick red flux 6010, rougher than a cob, never a smooth weld, but it has a few quirks, like the ability to weld under water flow (flow, not pressure),. Lots of smoke, spatter, difficulty in restarting and requires lots of clean up. The 5P+ Is smooth, has a better looking bead, easier restarts and reduced smoke and spatter. Must contractors, I work with use the 5P+ (or equivalent), for their root welds and hot passes, then use 7018 as a cover pass.

I’ve found most of the inverters will run 6011 (or at least the Murex EasyArc E6011C, I run), don’t like the Lincoln Fleetweld 180 and 35 (dark brown flux), to me crap rod. We went to the E6011C (gray flux), because it possible to get x-ray quality welds, with it.
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a few pictures


1 - the welder
2 - the open case
3 - the closed case
4 - a 7018 pass
5 - a mix of 6010 and 6011
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nice looking welds.
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