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Old 03-28-2005, 09:12 PM
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bravo on the web site !!!

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Old 03-28-2005, 09:38 PM
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Thanks guys. I'm hoping we can get all the new members involved now.
I had even been dreaming about that danged vise. I dreamed that the diesel soak actually did its job & I was able to jack it open without any more trouble.
But I must emphasize - that was a dream.
After everyone has had a chance to read up to date, we'll give that girl another twirl, as Rock always says.
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Old 03-28-2005, 09:50 PM
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but, but ,but if the diesel does the job...the saga will be over
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:58 PM
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another top thread (and more hours lost to reading stuff on the net )

the idea of the grease nipples (zerks I think you called them) made me think if its possible to turn the vice itself into a hydraulic cylinder and force itself appart by pressurising it via a grease nipple. I don't think the design of this vice would lend itself to that though.
I have a saftey tip concerning the pressurizing of grease zirks, especially stuck ones.

A master mechanic once told me a story about a mechanic that was having problems with a zerk taking on grease. He said this mechanic failed to consider another zirk maybe hidden close by and aimed at him, as he worked the plugged zerk the pressure finally was enough to free up the zerk but there was enough build up that when it freed up it blew out the other zerk aimed at his head and killed the guy deader than a door knob.

Just though I would pass this story on for those that may never have heard about this danger before.
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Old 03-28-2005, 11:15 PM
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Good grief! I think I can plan around that now that you've posted the warning. Thanks.
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I had even been dreaming about that danged vise. I dreamed that the diesel soak actually did its job & I was able to jack it open without any more trouble.
But I must emphasize - that was a dream.
So was the ninth season of Dallas
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:31 AM
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cutter awesome vice you have there

have you tried molasses to remove the rust?

here's a good thread on Cast & ordinary iron restoration describing the process

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=11301

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Old 03-29-2005, 02:29 AM
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To tell the truth River, I had read about using molasses last year but I just didn't want to go buy 5 gallons of it & then have to clean up that mess too. As far as surface rust goes, I just about had that whipped & I couldn't bring myself to believe molasses would penetrate the close tolerances involved inside the old vise.
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Old 03-29-2005, 02:56 AM
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You know, I have given that thing a lot of thought since I linked to it forever and a day ago. If I remember right (hey, I could go refresh my memory but that would be too easy!) the method you were using would seem to put the moveable jaw in a bind when you put a strain on it. I was thinking that you might try blowing some holes in your new welding table ( you can weld the holes up later, that's what welding tables are for!) and bolting the vice to the table with the jaw facing down the long edge of the table. Then you would need to mount a heavy L- shaped bracket to the table with the flat facing the vice. The bracket will need to have a hole in it that lines up with the center of the vice jaw and be mounted far enough away that the jaw has room to move. I have used other objects besides a bracket, it just has to be able to be bolted or welded down solidly and have the hole for the pull rod lined up close to exactly with the object to be pulled. You will then need a joint of Acme threaded rod, or all thread, that will fit through the moveable jaw and the bracket. It will need to protrude far enough through each to fit a thrust washer or bearing and a nut. The thrust washer on the jaw side will obviously have to fit through the fixed jaw without pulling through the moveable jaw. That in itself might complicate things, you might have to get a thick piece of metal machined to size to get the maximum contact and not jam. Once you get this puller rigged up you can start tightening the nut at the bracket. I would whack the moveable jaw with a hammer up and down and side to side during the pulling process to relieve any tendency the jaw has to bind due to uneven build- ups of rust and gunk hanging up at various points down the tube. You might even need to use the rosebud. If you get a really healthy strain on it it stands a chance of breaking something so plan on re- designing your puller once or twice during the removal process. This just adds to the fun and will help get your post count up. However, I have fought stuff like this and then figured out a way to get a straight, even pull and had it slide right out. Good Luck!
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Old 03-29-2005, 05:16 AM
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Its good to see this thing up and running again!I hope it brakes free and you get to use it...
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