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Old 08-24-2017, 06:56 PM
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Today I was able to get the chisel made out of the outer race of a tapered roller bearing. Timken made in USA 362A from a Dana 60 front.. It's not quite 3/16 wide..

It was then easy to get the handle fitted and shaped.. I still need to make the butt cap or pommel.. Also still kicking the idea of copper caps but not sure as the design of the handle won't really accept the front cap..
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Old 08-26-2017, 06:25 AM
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That chisel......I assume you just straightened out that outer race and then hammered into a chisel. How did you temper it?

Never thought to use a bearing race for tools. Must have a go at that. I scored some really big suckers from the scrap when at the factory.........
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:06 AM
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That chisel......I assume you just straightened out that outer race and then hammered into a chisel. How did you temper it?

Never thought to use a bearing race for tools. Must have a go at that. I scored some really big suckers from the scrap when at the factory.........


Pretty much.. Cut it, straighten it, forge it down.. 52100 can be a tough steel to forge as the forge temperature is pretty important..

I prefer to harden in water but because of the thinness of chisel it was hardened in Linseed oil..

For this type of chisel the back part is completely flat and has rounded edges..

For tempering.. I heat up a 3/4-1" bar in the forge to orange and once the chisel is polished I lay it on paying attention to keep the colors where I want them.. Also because of the thinness I went to a dark bronze/peacock temper color..

All the pieces of the bearing are good steel. Even the spacers can be made from high carbon steels..
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Old 08-26-2017, 05:48 PM
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I've been following your different threads/slash projects pretty closely even though I haven't commented much. You continue to churn out such high quality work I know I watched the video of you doing the spoon where you used something you had laying around to form the bowl of the spoon. I figure if I tried that I would be picking that bearing race or whatever it was off the ground 25 times or so. The forged in fire deal is way cool. You should kick ass and take names on that show.
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Old 08-26-2017, 07:53 PM
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I've been following your different threads/slash projects pretty closely even though I haven't commented much. You continue to churn out such high quality work I know I watched the video of you doing the spoon where you used something you had laying around to form the bowl of the spoon. I figure if I tried that I would be picking that bearing race or whatever it was off the ground 25 times or so. The forged in fire deal is way cool. You should kick ass and take names on that show.
Thanks, I appreciate the kind comments..

Things are slowly coming back. I had originally thought I could be back up to speed in about a year, but now seeing the reality it's gonna be maybe another year.. Taking off those 13 or so years really put my mind to rest when it comes to moving metal and where things were natural, now i have to think of everything and then after the fact I remember the correct way to do it.. With that being said, I have been experiencing moments of clarity and it offers me more inspiration..

Forged in fire we'll see.. the legal stuff has me in a tizzy, and With my farrier work its increased both in customers and amount of work (more horses per stop)so it's become a 6 days a week business.. It's hard to keep everyone organized and to take off 2 weeks to do the show, would snow ball and make it impossible to get caught up,

and I planned on the blacksmithing work to maybe become a part time gig in the future.. Turned 49 this year and while I am good at trimming and shoeing the recovery time after the fact is longer.. I did 11 horses over 159miles and by the time I got home I was stiffened up and it took about 3hrs to recover to where I felt decent.. Body feels good, just tired..

So, we'll have to see.. Thanks again for the support..
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I used to trim our horses, and at 30-35 if I did 3-4 in a day I was stiffened up for another day.

My legs, arms, back, and the rest of my body can truly appreciate what sort of physical demands farrier work puts on a person.

Time for a new signature line!!
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Old 08-27-2017, 06:26 AM
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I used to trim our horses, and at 30-35 if I did 3-4 in a day I was stiffened up for another day.

My legs, arms, back, and the rest of my body can truly appreciate what sort of physical demands farrier work puts on a person.

Time for a new signature line!!

" Time for a new signature line!!!" ????

Old and stiff!!!

it goes from 0 to 150 in seconds.. I'm always amazed at how much energy or physical stamina it really takes. Surprisingly my body has never felt better and getting back into the blacksmithng has made my shoulders and elbows feel great as well..

We'll see how many more years I have at it.. Been 29 years this year..
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Old 09-01-2017, 07:16 PM
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I've been working on this knife slowly.. The pommel was made from a 3/4" wrought iron bar.. I had to originally forge weld back the end as it was tapered..

I then had to upset the end to over 2" to get a boss with enough meat to forge this out.. Nearly 90% of the chisel work was done hot..

if you look at the guard you can see it has a nice pattern in it as it was wrought iron also..

I think I over worked the pommel wrought iron and the pattern is just about washed out.. Probably because it was refined to much and nearly all the slag was worked out of it..

I still have to make the nut and finish it up..

With the pommel the knife is completely balanced right behind the guard..
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If I defend myself I am attacked.

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Old 09-01-2017, 07:20 PM
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Old 09-10-2017, 06:57 AM
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Yesterday I did a demo at one of the local one day Fairs..

I was able to get the nut finished and fitted.. (I'll have to make the nostils deeper so I can get a wrench on it to loosen or tighten the nut..

Overall not to bad.. It's nice and sharp now.. I'll give it one more cleaning and call it finished..
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