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Old 03-12-2017, 07:36 AM
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Here is a short video on forge welding a straight bar..


https://youtu.be/u4pSu10qS4c
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Old 03-12-2017, 08:18 AM
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Thanks Jenn, liked both videos. This one I could see no size difference at the weld nor any evidence of the seam.

Especially liked the one making tongs - start to finish Nice Work!

Wish my Dad was still here to watch these , He would love them.

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Thanks Jenn, liked both videos. This one I could see no size difference at the weld nor any evidence of the seam.

Especially liked the one making tongs - start to finish Nice Work!

Wish my Dad was still here to watch these , He would love them.

Many thanks,
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Wayne, Thanks for the feedback.. I keep losing myself into thinking I should make videos based on what others would like to watch..

Then I snap to and come back to the reason I make them.. Primarily I want to make video's I'd like to watch..

Still working the kinks out so feedback like yours is important..

Sorry, your Dads not around to watch them..

Thanks again..
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You always make it looks so easy. Video was good. Like the cations too. Makes it easy to understand what you are doing. Who was your helper holding the other piece?
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You always make it looks so easy. Video was good. Like the cations too. Makes it easy to understand what you are doing. Who was your helper holding the other piece?
Thanks for the kind words and feed back.. Very helpful..

It's called the drop method.. Once you get into position the bar on top will be in your left hand and you just let go with the right..

Ideally the long bar will be in the left hand so one does't need tongs as this just complicates things a little more..
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Nicely done. I should watch it again yo see, but when you lined up the scarfs, would you overlap them slightly so when you weld them, you have a little extra to draw out so you don't undersized the rod when done welding?
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Nicely done. I should watch it again yo see, but when you lined up the scarfs, would you overlap them slightly so when you weld them, you have a little extra to draw out so you don't undersized the rod when done welding?
On materials 3/8" and under you don't need to upset the material that you would normally lose in larger sizes..

This was 1/2" I believe but didn't upset it.. This was because I knew it was going to me a decent weld..

With that being said.. A scarf is the overlap.. The notches forged (will say scarf forged and notched) in the video IIRC.. (what I call a European scarf)

The notches will be together to form a shear point that ends up in the middle as the scarf is welded will become straightened, thus removing the shear point on its own..

Without a scarf the shear point will go all the way through the bar..

I have to go out to work now.. I'll draw a pictures later to clarify.. Also I will be making a video about forge welding with different design factors once the weather settles down..

As it is now. The cameras don't have great low light ability and is the reason a lot of the videos are grainy and then washed out from how bright the metal is at welding heat.
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The sketch was huge explained a lot I couldn't wrap my head around watching the video. Everything happens too quick. The actual forge weld process was so smooth and slick I just sort of went obviously it's some sort of black magic. This wasn't after one viewing I've watched it several times I'm still impressed with how smooth and seamless the bar appears when your done.
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The sketch was huge explained a lot I couldn't wrap my head around watching the video. Everything happens too quick. The actual forge weld process was so smooth and slick I just sort of went obviously it's some sort of black magic. This wasn't after one viewing I've watched it several times I'm still impressed with how smooth and seamless the bar appears when your done.

Thanks... I was hoping the pictures would help.. LOL.. In a way it's blacksmith magic..

It is funny but 90% of the stuff I make takes forge welding.. It can be such a labor savings and with out it some things couldn't even be made..

Funny thing about scarfs and forge welding.. Text book in Europe is the scarf with the overlapping tips. It's a pretty good design.

But once you move away from bars of the same size the scarfs have to be sized accordingly.. so a 3/4" Sq bar welding to a 1" sq bar has a scarf that is tapered both going up on the 3/4 and down on the 1"


Next videos coming out is "How to make and S hook, and a new version of the chain making video.. And a new version of "How to make bolt tongs"..

Thanks..
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