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Old 01-02-2018, 09:25 AM
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All of what I am looking at is in the 40x50x20 foot range, but can vary. Please think of these numbers as I give budgetary quotes.
Dave,

Question on the wall height. Is there something you are planning that you
need 20' walls are you planning a mezzanine? 16' is more common as you
can accommodate an overhead door with clearance for a semi.

You are just adding a lot of volume to heat is you are planning on heating
the space. If I ever get around to my dream shop I was planning on 16 or
18 foot wall so I can have a second story in the back half of the shop.

Just tossing around ideas.
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If your going to have a lift for semis you would need 20’. Other than that.....
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:04 PM
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Sea cans kind of suck for a shop. There are a lot of logistics to overcome to seal them up from the weather and if you hang trusses across them like I did then you lose 16 in or more of clearance. Not to mention they are typically set on top of railroad ties so you get a lot of draft under them.
And the insides are damn near impossible to work with. Once you put any kind of equipment in there its gets hard to navigate around. Remember, you are only working with a little less then 8' width.
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Take a look at Adams truss out of AR. Similar to Miracle Truss but considerably cheaper last I checked. They also seemed to be very easy to work with vs. a more corporate supplier.

https://adamstruss.com
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Old 01-04-2018, 05:47 PM
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Two seacans with 40' open space between them, buy the wood trusses, and frame the rest. Way less that 20K. Lots of built in storage. Not what you asked but a cheaper way to do it.
I've thought about that before, Missus isn't keen on it, but not to rule it out. As mentioned already, unless only getting two of them and then framing a second story on top, I would need 4 minimum to get the head space I am looking for. At cost of one around here I would be at ~$12k delivered, but not necessarily where they need to be, and definitely not stacked, so I would need a crane for positioning.

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Have you looked in to military surplus buildings? They occasionally show up around here for about 25 to 35 cents on the dollar. They don't come with directions and some minor repairs may be required but well worth it.
No I haven't, Possible thing to research for me I guess.

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The wider the truss the higher the cost per square foot,
for the same square footage building.

Steel is cheaper for larger buildings, wood is cheaper for
smaller, where the delineation is these days I don't know.
The deliniation for me is clear span, and to get wood scissor trusses, the cost goes up even more... Again, I'm just getting ideas and suggestions, but the clear span is of main interest to me.

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Here, you need a full set of plans and building permits for wood structure. But not for a steel 'out building'
Yea, I built the garage two summers ago, and after seeing what the inspector wanted for plans, I can draw anything up and make him happy.

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To achieve a 20 ft. (or close to it) ceiling you'd need to double stack the containers. I don't know what they're worth down there but 48 ft. hi-cube containers (which are 9'6" high) in decent shape can run $2500-$3500 each. That's 10-12 grand or more right there.

And if you want forty feet clear between your containers you're going to need 60 ft. trusses; they're not going to be cheap either...
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Don't forget to factor in delivery charges.
Steel is heavy and expensive to ship.
Yea, but less steel and more wood equals similar weights.

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Might wanna add in ANOTHER $5k or more for a fork lift that can make use of those UPPER sea cans (unless you already GOT one) ...Steve
In the future....

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But could get the sea cans now and build as you go. A sea can shop would be more space than he has currently, and might start with one at a time.


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I currently am using all of the garage space that I built less the little cubby that her JEEP goes into. Possible short term plans of adding its first lean too, not just for temporary, but I plan on it anywise someday as I have nothing else to do with that space.

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One question:

Are you expecting to hang a crane in there in the future ?
Oh, we have a winner here. Yes I want to put in a bridge crane that will span ~15-20' and run the length of the shop less any interference from the overhead door that it will service.
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Dave,

Question on the wall height. Is there something you are planning that you
need 20' walls are you planning a mezzanine? 16' is more common as you
can accommodate an overhead door with clearance for a semi.

You are just adding a lot of volume to heat is you are planning on heating
the space. If I ever get around to my dream shop I was planning on 16 or
18 foot wall so I can have a second story in the back half of the shop.

Just tossing around ideas.
Yes, and yes. My first thought was a little shorter, If I can get the clear span trusses, I wanted to do a mezz and then with a shorter wall I could utilize attic space for its full second level.

Secondly, I figure with a bridge crane, and loss of head room for rigging, I would like to keep as much height as possible.

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If your going to have a lift for semis you would need 20’. Other than that.....
Don't think a lift is in my plans, but if one happens, it wont be for a semi, I'm not NEAL. I don't work on important things. I just like to take things that are straight and make them not straight.

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Take a look at Adams truss out of AR. Similar to Miracle Truss but considerably cheaper last I checked. They also seemed to be very easy to work with vs. a more corporate supplier.

https://adamstruss.com
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