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Old 02-21-2007, 05:54 AM
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yeah material prices move a fair bit over here too.


thankfully i can normally get good deals on stuff as the company i work for supplys point of sale systems to a lot of builders merchants and even one decent sized steel merchant so i can normally pull a good price from somewhere.

Anyway a spanner has been thrown in the proverbial works.

www.botanicliving.com

they do "log" cabins in all shapes and sizes, and prices aren't too bad.

they have some deals running at the moment not on the website but a 5m x 5m building with roof and floor insulation for €7500 (just shy of $10k)

thats roughly in line with what my design would cost with me paying someone to do my slab, so if i pour the slab myself then six weeks later a lovely building just magically appears.

I'm tempted, i'm going to see them on saturday anyway with herself and we'll see what comes of it. the problem is we spend a lot of time away with work and we're rennovating our house, restoring her tractor, my land rover and carrying out running repairs, mods, upgrades to my tractor and range rover so it could be a year before we'd have a workshop built.

anyway i'll take pics on saturday and report back next week
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Old 02-21-2007, 01:22 PM
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sorry about the delay ...here are the pics....i have 3,000 usd in it.
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Old 02-21-2007, 01:32 PM
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and some more
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:43 PM
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Thanks for the Pics boilerman.


well i went to see the botanic living buildings i was talking about above, nice to look at, well built, but not cheap.

20x13 was coming in at €9,200 ($12k) thats just the bare basic building, plus slab, plus everything else on top of that.

so, no.

back to the selfbuild idea, unless swmbo decides that a steel building would be allowed (we can use the steel tile effect cladding alright, its not much cheaper than slates seemingly, but its a lot quicker to put up)
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:43 PM
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Boilerman -- nice looking shed! Western Cedar?

Darn Texas Sun will just about blister anything out here, so I went with Hardiboard (Cement Fiber Board) with OSB backing it (baseball will go right through Hardiboard, but with the OSB backing just bounces back off).

My eyes are playing tricks on me as it look like you only have one center truss... I'm missing something. Three trusses + snow?
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:52 PM
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Boilerman -- nice looking shed! Western Cedar?

Darn Texas Sun will just about blister anything out here, so I went with Hardiboard (Cement Fiber Board) with OSB backing it (baseball will go right through Hardiboard, but with the OSB backing just bounces back off).

My eyes are playing tricks on me as it look like you only have one center truss... I'm missing something. Three trusses + snow?

well close ;the trim is cedar but the sides are t111 stained cedar....put stain in bug sprayer and pump up ...stain the whole shed in about 20 minutes...and no your eyes are ok ...the building is 20'x12' with only 3 trusses on 10' centers and the purlins are 2"x4" on edge on 2' centers and the sheeting is 7/16 osb.... i know your thinking snow loads and what not but this type of roof is alot stronger than you think...
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:58 PM
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Okay, the gf really liked the log cabin idea. to quote her...


"i wouldn't mind having that in the back garden" (which is probably as good as i'm gonna get)

I however didn't particularly like the price, and the crowd selling it were only box shifters and not the manufacturer and they were'nt particularly flexible, i would have had to pay for the floor whether i wanted it or not, etc

i found this crowd on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Log-Cabin-Styl...QQcmdZViewItem

this is promising. i've emailed em a few questions so i'll see what the response is like, they seem to be a manufacurer as opposed to a reseller so thats a definite plus.

the biggest benefit is the price, which is under $5k

can't wait to see what they say
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:16 PM
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I have always wanted to build one out of landscape timbers and spikes.We did build a kids playfort out of them for a buddy then the kids grew up and left .He did not think he was ever going to get that heavy thing sold.
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:33 AM
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Righto.


Its looking likely that i'll be getting the ebay log cabin, so onto the finer details of the build.

The floor and the walls.

I'm planning an insulated slab. i was thinking 4 inch with steel slab would be fairly solid, but what about insulation? i'd like to insulate the building where possible and it seems like floor insulation would be important. whats the norm over there? i'm not getting much on insulated shed floors here and house floors aren't quite done the same either.....

Also this is a log building and i want to be able to weld/grind in it. what fire precautions should i be taking? I'm thinking of lining the walls/ceiling with regular plaster slabs, is probably the cheapest and i guess second best option, second only to steel? which is not a palatable option
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:43 AM
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We call it drywall over here and it is fire-rated. I'm guessing you have a similar product over there.

Lots of folks here are drywall users and I don't hear of many shop fires.

I can't remember what's used in my UK relatives places. I didn't ask enough questions when I visited last.
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