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Old 08-15-2017, 06:42 PM
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Default Klutch MIG/Stick 220Si 230V Multi-Process Welder with Spool Gun — 230V, 140 Amp

Hi all:
This stick welder/mig welder is made by "Klutch". Is Klutch any good? I would like to buy this in the future if it's any good.

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Klutch MIG/Stick 220Si 230V Multi-Process Welder with Spool Gun — 230V, 140 Amp

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...BoCWtYQAvD_BwE
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:55 PM
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I see it only has a 30% duty cycle. That would not be good enough for me. I would not get anything less than a 60% duty cycle.
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Old 08-15-2017, 09:16 PM
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Duty cycle is a valid point, but I paid $1350 for my powermig 210mp and it only has a 40 percent duty cycle. Sometimes you have to compromise a little bit. These welders are meant to be portable and shouldn't be expected to keep up with a shop unit that weighs 250 lbs.

I know absolutely nothing about klutch, so take this for what its worth. I like the specs on that machine, and think if they have a good reputation it would make a great machine for a DIY type person who just wants to weld at home.

If you plan to use it professionally, I would step up to the lincoln 210MP, or the miller multimatic 215. Both of these machines have dual voltage capability, which makes them much more flexible for portable work, and they both will have much better product support due to the number of dealers around.
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I am not to sure as to whether or not I would use it professionally. I like the fact that it is both a mig welder and a stick welder. I suppose, if need be, I could stick weld with it up to maybe 5/16 inch plate with it. I like the price seeing it is both a mig/stick welder.

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Old 08-15-2017, 10:03 PM
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Don't you already have a stick welder?
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Old 08-16-2017, 01:30 AM
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Don't you already have a stick welder?
I have my Miller Thunderbolt, Lincoln AC 225/DC 125, Lincoln Power Arc 4000 and the Miller 225 NT Bobcat (needs new carburetor and battery) so, yeah. Already have a stick welder, but I was thinking you could never have to many.

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Old 08-16-2017, 09:24 PM
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For the thin stuff your talking, if you have tanks brazing is always a possibility instead of mig. Brazed dozens of mower decks together over the years.

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Old 08-17-2017, 02:26 AM
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On paper it looks like it will work in a clutch (pun intended). Takes Tweco consumables. AND it comes with a SPOOLGUN! So your Al welding needs would be covered. Inverter-based is nice and light. The Lincoln 180 I have "reviewed" in another thread is 65 pounds WITHOUT a spool of wire in it!

That said, I would keep your eyes open for the MM185/210/212. I had a MM210 w/3035 spooler and they made me (saved me) a lot of money the nearly 10 years I owned them. But it is a "full-size" transformer-based machine and will take up space on your shop floor. I do not imagine you will get a super "deal" on one because they hold their value. My setup was purchased "on special" WITH the spoolgun for $1100 from my LWS. I think I sold the package for $1300 about 10 years later--yes, I used it frequently AND made money when I sold it.

About Lincoln, I had a PM255 that I set up with a Prince spoolgun. Welded good but the Prince was not well-supported at my LWS. Sold for a profit and soon found a used MM252/30A that I am still using today.

I picked up a 90's Lincoln "EuroMIG 250" or whatever it was called at auction for around $400, cleaned it up and promptly flipped it and doubled my money. This model had a digital display that was controlled by a switch at the MIG gun handle. It had the "euro" style MIG gun connector.

Used deals are out there but the Klutch seems like an especially good deal since it includes the spoolgun. Of course, you may have the same tip-roasting issues I'm having with the aforementioned 180 and I'm not talking about brazed beef tips...

PS: and speaking of mower decks, I have one to do here because the sandy soil just blasts them apart...
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I believe that I will go with the Hobart Handler 210 MVP. Rural King has them for $849.99 and Tractor Supply has them for $899.99. Both Tractor Supply and Rural King are close by, but there is more traffic on the way to Tractor supply and besides that Rural King is just a hop, skip and a jump from here. With all that said, Tractor Supply has the Hobart Handler 190 MIG Welder with Spool Gun Package for $819.99 so I will keep that in mind to if I don't go with the Hobart Handler 210 MVP.

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You can get a big jump in duty cycle if you look at the Ironman 230...

Just an option...

https://www.hobartwelders.com/products/wirefeed/
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