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Old 10-22-2017, 09:55 AM
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I guess I'm just going to post this in the shop section as it involves taking someone's away, and outfitting another's.

Short story is my wife's grampa isn't steady any more, and no one else in the family has shown a lot of interest. So, down to Chicago I go to get these.

The Rikon is a 18". Some other guy would have wanted it, but didn't have 220v. My question is that it's slowest speed is too fast for steel. Can a VFD be used on a 220v motor to slow it down, and not destroy the motor?

Secondly, I've always wanted a floor model drill press, this will do. Table tilts every which way, and the XY clamp came with. I especially like the tapered spindle, should I buy a wedge for removing tools, or just make one from steel?
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Nice Delta dust collection system, will need to finish my router table so I can hook it up...

Spindle sander, since I don't have one and why not. Few different diameters and all the such.
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Some things I left there that I didn't have a need for, and no friends to give them too.
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The Rikon is a 18". Some other guy would have wanted it, but didn't have 220v. My question is that it's slowest speed is too fast for steel. Can a VFD be used on a 220v motor to slow it down, and not destroy the motor?
I couldn't tell from the picture but is that a single sheave pulley or a set of cone pulleys?
What is the speed of the motor that's on it now?
You might do just fine to replace it with one about half the speed of the factory motor.
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Secondly, I've always wanted a floor model drill press, this will do. Table tilts every which way, and the XY clamp came with. I especially like the tapered spindle, should I buy a wedge for removing tools, or just make one from steel?
What is it, a Morse taper 3 or MT2?
The drifts are so cheap to order I would bother making them. Otoh, if you have your plasma cutter set up then it might be easy enough to merit copying one.
You don't need the wedges unless you intend to remove the chuck from the arbor & even then it will depend on whether the arbor has a shoulder to catch the top wedge.
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Some things I left there that I didn't have a need for, and no friends to give them too.
Second pic is reel nice scroll saw.
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The Rikon is a 18". Some other guy would have wanted it, but didn't have 220v. My question is that it's slowest speed is too fast for steel. Can a VFD be used on a 220v motor to slow it down, and not destroy the motor?

If the 220v motor is 3 phase than yes you can slow it down no problem.
If the price was right than it would be worth wile to update the motor to 3 phase and add a VFD. I regularly slow down or speed up my mill and lathe about 30% rpm +/- with no problem.

What's the price on the scroll saws?
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If you try to mill with that X-Y vise you won't need a wedge to remove the chuck. It will do it for you.

Tapered shank tooling doesn't like sideways thrust. That's why milling machines with morse taper tooling have a drawbar that threads into a hole in the end of the tapered shank.

Nice haul, though.


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If you try to mill with that X-Y vise you won't need a wedge to remove the chuck. It will do it for you.
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No, definitely not a milling table.
It appears to be the Harbor Freight $50 vise. I've got one sitting under a pile of swarf & chips somewhere.
If it is there's probably lots of slop in the screws and no practical way to lock the slides.
They can be useful for roughly positioning a punched hole location under the drill.
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I couldn't tell from the picture but is that a single sheave pulley or a set of cone pulleys?
What is the speed of the motor that's on it now?
You might do just fine to replace it with one about half the speed of the factory motor.

I haven't looked at the motor speed yet, but it has two speed settings, on the bottom blade wheel there are two diameters cast into it behind the blade. Lowest I think is ~1500 SFM but I don't fully recall.

What is it, a Morse taper 3 or MT2?
The drifts are so cheap to order I would bother making them. Otoh, if you have your plasma cutter set up then it might be easy enough to merit copying one.
You don't need the wedges unless you intend to remove the chuck from the arbor & even then it will depend on whether the arbor has a shoulder to catch the top wedge.
I'm guessing a MT2. Looks too small diameter for a Morse 3.
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The Rikon is a 18". Some other guy would have wanted it, but didn't have 220v. My question is that it's slowest speed is too fast for steel. Can a VFD be used on a 220v motor to slow it down, and not destroy the motor?

If the 220v motor is 3 phase than yes you can slow it down no problem.
If the price was right than it would be worth wile to update the motor to 3 phase and add a VFD. I regularly slow down or speed up my mill and lathe about 30% rpm +/- with no problem.

What's the price on the scroll saws?
There has been no mention of selling anything there yet.

I wouldn't doubt it if they are still there 6 months from now, and I just grab them myself as well. From there we might be talking, but until then I don't know.
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