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Old 01-07-2018, 10:00 AM
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Default Hobart Mig Wire?

Out of convenience I bought a spool of Hobart wire. I typically use Radnor ER70S-6 and it seems to work fine. Nowhere on the Hobart package or the spool is ER70S-6 indicated. I questioned the counter person at Grainger at the time but he could not give me an answer.

I have never had as much contamination of my nozzle and contact tube with any other wire. I find myself having to stop and clean after just one or two minutes of welding and the build up seems to be more difficult to remove with this Hobart wire.

Has anyone had such experience? I am planning to return the wire tomorrow and drive the extra 10 miles for the Radnor wire.
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Old 01-07-2018, 11:32 AM
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I don't think you got real Hobart wire, I think you got some Chinese crap where they are counterfeiting the name...

http://www.hobartbrothers.com/produc...6&method=quick

I don't see any Hobart 706 brand wire on Hobart's website.

Grainger, well I got nothing good to say about them, good luck with the return.
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Old 01-07-2018, 11:41 AM
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This if off Grainger's website for the SDS, this is the manufacturer per the SDS.

I think you got sold counterfeit wire.

1.3. DETAILS OF THE SUPPLIER OF THE SAFETY DATA SHEET:
GRAINGER GLOBAL SOURCING
100 GRAINGER PARKWAY LAKE
FOREST, IL 60045
USA
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Old 01-07-2018, 12:05 PM
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Well, FWIW, it is being sold as "706" wire on Ebay, with a few other bits of info. Which does mention it's from China.

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I questioned the counter person at Grainger at the time but he could not give me an answer.
Three Piece, before you take it back, cut off a 3' piece of it and try TIG'ing with it on mild steel, or if possible someone else that is setup for TIG. Just curious.

I do think I was given a partial spool of this stuff this past year while working in the friends shop doing a connection pipe job to help him out. His mention was they used it for gubment jobs in the shop.

Of course, not having it in hand, I'm going on memory. I'll look this afternoon for it.
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Old 01-07-2018, 12:29 PM
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I used the where to buy function on Hobart's website.

They do not list Grainger as a distributor... hmmmmm

You got sold shit.

http://www.hobartbrothers.com/where-to-buy.html
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:12 PM
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I buy nothing from Graingers, unless absolutely necessary, they are grossly uninformed parts monkeys, they know the catalog, not the products. The company uses them a lot, they are convienent, as long as you know the product wanted, but hardly economical, they are usually 20-30% higher than other suppliers for the same product.

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If one of their associates, said the sun was shining, I’d check, before believing it.
If one of their associates said that it is because someone gave them a part number for that response. I haver not had good luck with any grainger associate doing anything except handing you a catalog and letting you know to let them know when you find the correct part number for them.

I totally agree with the grainger comments.

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Acklands was a major industrial supplier here in Canada for many years--they go back to the 60s or even earlier. The were the first true "industrial" supplier to move into our town and for years they were great to deal with. Good stock, decent prices and knowledgeable people behind the counter. For a time we spent a lot of money there.

Fast forward to sometime in the late 80s or early 90s (I think) and they sold out to Grainger. They still operate under the name "Acklands-Grainger". In the time since the buyout I can probably count on my fingers the number of times I've been in one of their stores. I think the only things we've ever bought from them since the buyout was a few small Dayton gearmotors.

Since the buyout service and stock availability have gone way downhill and prices have gone through the roof. And it gets worse--about 6 months ago I stopped in at our local store (I was right next door and thought: "What the Hell, nothin' to lose." Walked up to the counter and asked the sales person ( I use that term loosely) if they had a "widget"--sorry but my old brain can't remember what I was looking for); although I know it was something that (I thought) would be pretty common.

Salesperson tells me to look up the part no. and then call the "Call Center" (which happened to be in the same building), have them check stock on the computer and then they would issue and order and the "sales" person would go and pick it. I couldn't freakin' believe it--even local counter sales had to go through the Call Center which was set up to handle all inquires from Western Canada. I just laughed, shook my head and walked out.

Oh, and the other thing the sales guy told me was that if we didn't have a formal account set up they wouldn't sell to us anyway. I am so done with them and their BS--I honest to gawd don't understand how they stay in business...
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