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Old 05-15-2016, 03:57 AM
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Nah see, those are craft stores using the name but not the same thing as a five & dime.
Do you remember those? The old 5 and 10 cent stores?
We have so-called Dollar Stores now (6 Dollar Stores would be more honest) but when I was little kid the five & dimes really did still have a lot of 5 cent and 10 cent items.
We had an M. E. Moses and for a while, a Ben Franklin right down the block in our little town of 5,000 population. Moses was a regional outfit whereas Ben Franklin was national, I suppose.
You could buy things like yo-yos or caps for your pistol, tops or jacks or balsa wood gliders for 5 or 10 cents. All kinds of tacky little doodads.
Come spring & summer, water guns were hot items but they cost a little bit more.

Moses has been out of business for several decades & I was not aware that the Ben Franklin franchise had survived by morphing into the crafts business.
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:13 AM
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The Ben Franklin store closed last year. We had a hobby lobby open a couple years ago in a mall type place. The downtown area struggles it seems to keep stores occupied. Parking is a huge issue. Who wants to pay a parking meter, walk two to three blocks to get to the store, and pay premium prices? I like my town, just can't afford to shop downtown. Boss is on the planning commission and explains for the downtown to be viable, the buildings all should be two to three stories with retail Space on the ground floor and living spaces on the upper floors. This building burned down back in the 60s and was only rebuilt 1 story. I guess the top two floors will be 4 condos each.

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I guess the top two floors will be 4 condos each.

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Where will those tenants park?
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Where will those tenants park?
there are a couple of parking lots within a couple of blocks. Actually one just in back alley that I think is s public lot. Will probably have to feed a meter though. During the winter time we have an alternating street side parking schedule to allow for snow removal. Of course, the town really made snow removal and driving challenging on Main Street when the put in the green center lawn islands to slow traffic down. You have to swerve to miss them going down the street to get into town. And the city had to buy a new snowplow truck and tractor with snowblower to be able to effectively move the snow. Of course, I live in the country because I don't want neighbors so close to me. Besides, they would not like my collecting either. :-)

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Old 05-16-2016, 09:46 AM
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Brian, check with the engineering firm that did the drawing for the process. A fab shop here in Pa, several years ago, changed the welding process on a bridge girder without checking with the engineering firm. They almost eat the cost of the girder when the state found out. But the engineering firm determined that the change in process had been acceptable. The state inspector noticed the difference in the welds and asked questions.
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Update time.
Finally got started on this project. Was at work extra early this morning at 5:15, because we had to close down the street for the crane to boom the first wave of steel into the basement for reinforcement. Took just about 3 hours for the crane to boom in 22 posts, and 2 beams. The posts were between 200 and 400 # each, so we really did not want to carry them down the stairs. :-). While waiting for the crane to get the next post down, I would move it to the pier and lift it onto the bolts and plumb it. Used a Vermette lift to do the heavy work. Would have looked pretty shaky to most anyone, but it went pretty smooth. Now we have to get the rest of the beams done and put on top of the posts on the walls of the building and then raised the beam up to help support the existing concrete docks plank floor, and for the 14' + tall posts for the first floor. That will be interesting to put up. The main posts are made from 7"x7"X 1/2" wall square tube at 42#'s a foot.

The biggest beam that we put in today was a 14"X 68# per foot, weighing in at about 1500#'s. Our new dollies moved them with ease. Before we can lift the beams into place, we have to do some maintaince on our Vermette lifts, some new castors and new cable, so it will be next week for that probably.

The crane worked pretty well. He only hit the top of the door frame a couple of times, but no broken glass. Was a tight fit, but it worked.

Of course I had a bonus on the way back to the shop. Had to take a slight detour from normal route because had to stop and pickup a safety flag that had fallen off the back of the beam on the way downtown, and my detour took me past a 5 drawer vertical file cabinet setting by the road. It got loaded onto the truck, and will find a home in my shop for more storage drawers!


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that was a tight fit. pretty good crane operator.
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Old 12-03-2016, 02:44 AM
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Man, that sure looks like fun...getting that WF down the stairs was a chore. I think I would have put a small piece of plywood or a plank under the end of it,spanning a couple of steps, keep the ends from tearing up the carpet and it goes down smoother. That extendable boom section came in handy eh?..

Had to move the truck for the last pick? Them knuckle booms are pretty neat. I never really got to run one, goofed off with them but no real work..

A crank lift is really handy. Do you have two? Makes lifting a beam in place way easier. Are you going to have to block the beam up so the mast clears? The fork carrier sticks up a ways, would hate to get it up there and not be able to get it tight to the ceiling.

Those lifts are awesome, you most definitely want the cables and sheaves in good shape, and the ratchet stops and brake as well. .I hated it when a section would drop fast when being lowered, scare the heck outta you :eek
I rented them, never bought one. ...

If you already set the columns you should leave them low, get the beam up and bolted to the columns and then push them up hard with the Vermette lifts. After that you just run the nuts up tight and you're good. .

How did you rig the post for the Vermette lift, forks tight to the tube, under the connection plate? Under studs? That can get spooky. ..

Do your posts sit on concrete, or do you have a saw cut hole with the anchor bolts in it? A cut out is way easier, more room for adjustment. If on top of the floor you only get an inch or so, I think dry- pack is supposed to be 1.5 inches. That column by the staircase, is that how they all are? I wouldn't think so but...?

If you have enough lead you could put your Bobcat on a pallet outside. It will run 1/8 lo-hy pretty easy, you can run .068 wire if your set up for that, Hobart Fabshield 21B would be a good choice, if the WPS allows. .
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Looks to be interesting.. Dual shield would be my guess but I certainly am no expert in this field..

Will the building be heated for the work time?
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