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Old 01-31-2017, 08:37 PM
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Default Want to get the best ADF hood I can

I've been welding for about 6 months with a cheap ADF hood and I need something much better. Still inexperienced and trying to pull off a career as a Welder, I need a quality hood that has the clearest lense and I would think a bigger viewing area too. The eyesight has diminished already while welding mig and of course gouging. I work in a fab shop so it's pretty much all day long. I've been looking at the optrel 684, the truesight 2, and the Miller digital infinity. Does anyone have advice for a beginner who wants to make a smart purchase for a hood that will last a while and help me properly protect my eyes?Plus give me the best chance for improving my skills.
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Old 01-31-2017, 08:52 PM
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I have the optrel e684, and I think its one of the top 3 AD helmets you can buy. I would never part with mine.

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Old 01-31-2017, 08:59 PM
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All of the big name helmets are much better than in the past it is really a mature technology.
go to your local. preferred welding distributor and try them out you will probably find one that stands out for you and has local backing.
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Old 01-31-2017, 09:07 PM
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Miller Elite is my suggestion, the first one I owned was the 3M Speedglas. Manual on, auto off, not fun.

First reason for the Miller, Auto on and off, no button pushing. Pick it up start welding.

Second it has something called the X mode, this is a huge plus. What is the X mode.... With the X mode selected, the hood goes dark only with the arc. Also auto dark is NOT triggered by bright lighting or the sun, very nice feature.

Third the head gear is also nice..

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Old 01-31-2017, 10:03 PM
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I have a Miller Digital Elite and a Jackson Truesight II. The clarity of the Truesight is amazing and I use it exclusively while the Miller collects dust till my grandson comes over, he uses that one with no problems due to his young, sharp eyesight.

The buttons on the Jackson are huge and you can push them with your gloves on.

The head gear however on the Jackson is terrible and if I had to wear it all day I would be looking to upgrade it. After I bought it I found out I could buy a Jackson non AD hood with better head gear for not too much cash and pop the truesight AD unit into it.
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Old 01-31-2017, 10:21 PM
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Default Best lense technology?

Thanks I'll look into that. I'm thinking the truesight 2 is probably the best option for me, but I wanted to make sure, technology is always getting better, and a lot of people claim that optrel has the best lense technology out there. Their larger lense the vega view supposedly does not have their latest and greatest. The 684 which does is about the same size as my current lense.
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Old 01-31-2017, 11:35 PM
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I really liked my miller titanium digital elite (9400) when I got it. Not a fan of it now that its 3 years old and randomly flashes me, or goes to dark state and won't come back until i flip it up and hit the power button. Changed the batteries a couple times and it didn't help. If you read a little online this seems to be fairly common with the miller helmets. They're awesome when they work but it seems like they don't last all that long.

I am probably going to try a speedglas or a jackson next, but I will really miss the X mode on the miller. It was really nice if you were welding outdoors in the sun or in a darker shop where turning your head towards a door or window would trigger a normal helmet.
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Old 02-01-2017, 12:13 AM
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Old school, no battery, no failure. Owner operated...last almost forever.
Over a 40 year span I only had to buy 3, and that only because one of them got run over by a D8...

Get the Omni View Gold lens and hardened glass cover plates and you're set.
No buttons, no messing around with your hood all day, just as dependable as a rock...

My $.02...not adjusted for inflation. ..
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Old 02-01-2017, 09:59 AM
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I'm still a fan of the auto-dark filters in a traditional hood. Particularly the Solera in a Jackson small window.

The lens itself is clear, and you throw in standard clear shields in front of it to protect the unit. No buttons, no battery failures, no issues to deal with. It's either light or dark. Mine has never let me down in almost a decade of use.

There are hundreds of options for hoods and headgear that the lens will fit.

I tried using a large-window autodark for a while and it just gave me more eyestrain and a headache afterwards. Aim small, miss small...and the little lenses do just that. They block more light overall and keep you focused on what you're doing instead of worrying about everything around the puddle.

Just my opinion, your results may vary with your budget.
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Old 02-05-2017, 07:21 PM
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Well I am back to report that the Jackson headgear is OK after all. After you posted I decided to look for better head gear and I saw that everyone was raving over the Jackson 370 head gear. I went to look at my hood and it had the 370 head gear. So I got the instructions out of the box that I never looked at when I got the hood a couple years ago and whuddya know, I was doing it wrong all this time. I thought the knobs on the side were what kept the hood up and I could never get them right. But that's not how it works. There is a notch that holds the hood in the up position, I wasn't lifting it enough to catch in the notch. The knobs only control how fast it drops once you nod your head. It also has adjustments to bring the lens closer/further from your face. That's what I get for not reading the instructions, who knew?

I used it all day today and it was great. So I am here to say the head gear does not suck, and it is a great hood.
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best hood out there?

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