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Old 01-09-2014, 09:31 AM
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Default Klutch tools, good, bad, indifferent?

Northern Tools house brand goes by Klutch. Anyone out there have any experience with their tools as I'm looking at a 1/2" drive battery powered Klutch impact wrench for only $149.99. It only has one battery and an additional battery is $59.99. Still a lot lower than anything at CPO Tools or Tool King.

I'm assuming its made in China, but then so are most of the battery powered impacts. I do not need one for daily use as I have a Snap-On 1/2" pneumatic impact to cover most of my needs. I'm only looking at this one to have when I go to the junk yard or on a long trip.

So comments from Klutch tool owners would be helpful.

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Old 01-09-2014, 10:10 AM
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When the batteries crap out in a year, will you be able to get replacements?
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:44 AM
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I have the 24volt 1/2 drive impact with the 2 batteries. I've used it once so far and ran thru both batteries in 20 minutes in cold weather. R&R of 20 1/2" deck cover bolts. Had to finish tightening the bolts by hand wrench.

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Old 01-09-2014, 11:08 AM
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Replacement batteries appear to be available, but Scaleman's comments tell me it's not built for heavy use. Guess I'll wait and save up my pennies.

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Old 01-09-2014, 12:57 PM
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Runaway from that deal.

Disclaimer, I am a huge fan of Makita tools

-The klutch is a house brand and as a rule house brands are OK, but they are not the best.
-It uses a NiCad battery. NiCads are alright but they lose power over time especially if they are charged incorrectly.
-Li-ion batteries last a very long time, and do not develop the 'memory effect'
-My feeling is that 210 ft/lbs is a really optimistic number. I don't think you would get that many minutes are that output rate, probably is would be in the 150# rate.

I have Makita a drill, impact drive, circ saw, recip saw, radio, trouble light(it is much handier that the rest of my trouble light combined). I bought a drill, impact driver for my one son who does a lot of renovations (DIY). My other son, I got him a Ryobi Drill and impact driver.

In Makita you are looking close to $200, in Ryobi probably $150-170. They are more than the $130, for the Northern tool brand.

I use my impact driver for screws and lag screws. The DRIVER is rated at 120 foot pounds. I spin the wheel nuts onto the car with air tools and then check with a torque wrench. I know they are at 100 or over. One day I was doing some work and decided to see if it really was as advertised. 14 of the 15 took a burp of 1-2 seconds, and one took about a 3-4 second burp to get it spinning. I was driving some 7x1/4" lag screws and it would break them if I hit knots. previously I had to pre-drill etc. Now I buy 5/16 for the shorter ones and 3/8" for the longer ones.

I have a Kawasaki NiCad set with drill, recip saw, circ saw etc. I never used it much because of the battery issues. Since I got the Li-ion tools I have not used my corded stuff very much.

I know there is a BIG difference in price, but, personally it might help to view it as part of a long term system. My guess the big three manufacturers are Makita, Bosch, and Dewalt, then Ryobi, Milwakee and some more.
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Old 01-09-2014, 02:17 PM
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The most important thing is battery life/replacement, and Bill is right. Dewalt, Makita, and Milwalkee, batteries are sold everywhere and are generic in that they interchange between tools. The cheapys usually are tool specific with a charger for each.

The better brand names have a charger that will do Li-on and Nicad in the same charger, and Milwaukee's charger is multi voltage as well.
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and Milwaukee's charger is multi voltage as well.
It is also pretty derned quick about it.

Milwaukee has one 18 volt impact driver with a claimed rating of 450 ft lbs but it is pretty pricey.

The compact M18 I carry for work is about 120 ft lbs and that's plenty for most of my little tinkering. The good thing about it is that I caught a Home Depot sale - the drill, driver, 2 battery packs & charger for $200.
I got the matching led flashlight with a 3rd battery for Christmas, by far the best worklight I've ever had.
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Old 01-09-2014, 06:39 PM
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In my opinion, forum members honest, non-biased (I.E. no tool company hype) tool reviews are one of the many benefits of being a member of this forum.
I like being able to look over someone's review of a tool, even if I have no current wish to own one, and get a good idea of whether it is something that may merit a future spot in my shrinking storage cabinet space, or not.
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Old 01-09-2014, 06:51 PM
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It is also pretty derned quick about it. Milwaukee has one 18 volt impact driver with a claimed rating of 450 ft lbs but it is pretty pricey. The compact M18 I carry for work is about 120 ft lbs and that's plenty for most of my little tinkering. The good thing about it is that I caught a Home Depot sale - the drill, driver, 2 battery packs & charger for $200. I got the matching led flashlight with a 3rd battery for Christmas, by far the best worklight I've ever had.
I've got a similar Milwakee set in 3/8 impact and 1/2 inch drill and I can't say enough good about em. I use the 3/8 impact daily and when it breaks after warranty I won't bat an eye about purchasing another immediately. The batteries charge in about 15 minutes.

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Old 01-09-2014, 07:55 PM
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I have Ridgid battery tools. Their life time no questions asked replacements for batteries and wear parts sold me - this after several house brand cheapies where the batteries went after a few months regular use.

Have had them now for about 5 years with no complaints despite heavy use. Have a drill, hammer drill, and impact. 4 batts and 2 chargers all interchangeable.

I've availed myself of the replacement batts. The first 2 Li-ion batts lasted about 3 years. I had to take them and a drill and charger to the service depot. He tested them, confirmed they were weak and I left with 2 new ones.

My original Ni-cads are still going strong.

Per the service rep there were some issues with early Li-Ion batts from most vendors but newer ones are far superior to Ni-Cad. I've found the Li-ion don't like to charge when it's -20 out but if I bring them in and warm them then put them on the inside charger they are fine. Ni-Cads will charge at -40.

My sons are getting Ridgid batt tools for birthdays when they are deserving.

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