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Old 09-20-2017, 12:39 AM
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I'm building a keg lift for a local brewery, and am at the point where I need to form a loop in some vinyl coated cable by swaging the end to the main. I don't know if I should remove the coating before swaging, or just swage with the coating in place. Loop will lift a full keg, weighing about 145#. Wondering what is the common procedure. Thanks for info.
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Old 09-20-2017, 02:36 AM
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I would remove the plastic and swage to bare cable.

You might get away with swaging on plastic for a little while but eventually the plastic is going to come apart and then someone gets hurt.

Get down to the base material, you never want to crimp on a coating that could break apart and then you have a loose swaged loop. Not good. ..
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I would remove the plastic and swage to bare cable.

You might get away with swaging on plastic for a little while but eventually the plastic is going to come apart and then someone gets hurt.

Get down to the base material, you never want to crimp on a coating that could break apart and then you have a loose swaged loop. Not good. ..
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What is the loop for and why plastic covered cable?
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remove the plastic and put heat shrink on last.
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Use stainless cable and forget the plastic
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I needed to make loop ends for tool boxes on a few large industrial machines.

Owner wanted completely covered cables with the plastic intact after swaging.

I told him that the plastic would lessen the grip of the swage process, so my suggestion was to remove that much plastic/rubber coating, crimp and dip/paint another rubber coating on the bare material.

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I too, wouldn't trust the plastic.
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It hiway's way.
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What is the loop for and why plastic covered cable?
The loop runs through the eyebolt, attached to the traveler that lifts the keg via a winch. I've noticed that some exercise apparatus use coated cables to lift weights, and just liked the appearance. But, function is always number one, so I'll dump the plastic, based on comments received.
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