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Old 01-08-2018, 03:21 PM
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Pay off your truck before you do anything!


Looks like the cross-slide has problems. does he have the compound?

RPM is likely on the low end for smaller parts so a second lathe will likely be needed.

use a flash light and mirror and check out the gears in the quick change box for broken teeth.. you can see them from underneath, the levers.

yes a bit over priced.
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Damn, there is most of your future shop there. Do you have a good spot to store it?


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Working on a storage spot. Maybe a shipping container.
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Old 01-08-2018, 07:35 PM
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A couple of things to look for. Accuracy and repeatability of the chucks. Take a dial indicator with you and check the full length of travel on a piece of stock. Auto feeds and stops. Make sure they're working. Put the dial indicator on the saddle and check the accuracy of the ways. A lot of the old production machines were used for the same work for years and are worn in areas. A lathe is only as good as its tool post. Give it a good looking over. What type of post is on the machine? Ask about the history of the machine. I don't know if South Bend will do this or not but get the serial number and give them a call to see if they have any history on the machine. If it's an old WWII era machine and was part of the defense supplier programs they should be able to tell you a lot. Did this with a Warner Swasey #2 turret lathe and got all kinds of info. It started life in the Portsmouth, VA ship yards.
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Old 01-08-2018, 08:58 PM
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Before wasting any time on the fiddly chit find out where the cross slide is and why it is off the lathe. A south bend is a cult machine they are ok but so are a dozen other brands. Once you get next to a better class of machine you will know the difference.
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:33 PM
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You might want to wait until you get your shop built so you have a place to store/set up. Moving big stuff like that only needs to be done once.
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Old 01-09-2018, 12:54 AM
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You might want to wait until you get your shop built so you have a place to store/set up. Moving big stuff like that only needs to be done once.
A now deceased but wise old friend had a saying that applies here:
"You cannot push a piece of string. But you can pull it towards you."

What he was saying had something to do with the old "getting the cart before the horse" cliche but it was more than that.
He meant that you nearly always screw up by trying to rush things when you're not prepared, and also that once you are prepared, as in having a building to put your things in , then the things that you need tend to make themselves available. And then you can pull the string and reel them in towards you.
I have found that to be pretty sound advice.
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Old 01-09-2018, 09:51 AM
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Tim, the world will not run out of used lathes, in fact as shops convert over to CNC more and more, they are going to be scrapping more of these. And they will become cheaper. Those huge lathes regularly get melted down. My scrapper buddy tried for 3 years to sell a complete with chucks and tools 20," lathe and finally hauled it in for scrap.

I have never found the need for anything bigger than 14 x 48, and if I ever did, I would farm it out.
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Tim, the world will not run out of used lathes, in fact as shops convert over to CNC more and more, they are going to be scrapping more of these. And they will become cheaper. Those huge lathes regularly get melted down. My scrapper buddy tried for 3 years to sell a complete with chucks and tools 20," lathe and finally hauled it in for scrap.

I have never found the need for anything bigger than 14 x 48, and if I ever did, I would farm it out.
I have to agree with Gerry on this one.

I have a Romi 13-5, it has a 13.5 inch swing and about 38" between centers.
Only once did I have a job I could not do on it. Not enough swing. Length
has never been a problem (boy wish that was always the truth...) I would
only consider a lathe change is if I could find a good condition gap bed lathe
with 14" swing over the bed and more with the gap removed. 36" to 48" is
really as long as you want as much is just wasted shop space. Long lathes
go for scrap value or less as nobody wants them.
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I have three lathes A 9 inch south bend that I have worn out doing jobs sized to it over the last 50 years.
My second lathe is a 16 swing X 72 center to center CMC. I use it for Drive shafts and and jobs too big for the little south bend.
My main lathe is a Jet 15 swing x 50 C to C
The first two lathes are brass bearing low speed low horsepower machines they give a beautiful finish but take a long time to do a part.
The jet is a 7 1/2 horsepower ball bearing machine. It is a a totally different class of machine and gets 90% of the jobs done here. since I acquired it.
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The guy who is selling the South Bend had started restoring it and now has to be out of his building by the end of the month. Same guy I got the work benches and cabinets from.

I'd still like to have a nice K&T mill and a USA made lathe in my shop.

Average asking price for a Bridgeport around here is $2500

I've always been told the import machines just aren't as good.

Maybe I dream too big.
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