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Old 09-19-2017, 08:42 PM
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one thing about working on old cats and collectables you get to see the quality of workmanship back in the day. on the td-18 under cariage switch that i'm doing there is some nice welds and work too. also you have to remember back then it was a 6 cylinder gas engine driving the AC welder. there was no auto shield helmets and the 7" grinder weighed about 35 pounds. the welds done on this cat had to be done by a proffessional to be able to do a nice up hand on the cast tub. also they ripped the draw bar off and made a big plate to re-anchor it. nice workmanship again. the cat is a 1942 and the under carriage is from a 1947. i think the repairs were made in the late 1950s by the style of shiney rods used.

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Old 09-19-2017, 11:52 PM
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and collectables you get to see the quality of workmanship back in the day
Amen on that one Joey.

I've done repairs on carriages, buggies and personal coaches of the day and had hell repairing cobbled together crap of repairs done 60 or so years later to get things back to show quality.

Doing a pick and file job on a 36 ford was the worst example. All of the bondo work needed to be removed due to rust that developed.

The customer was sure happy to find someone able to do lead, pick and file work in lieu of filler. It's a health hazard for sure as it's all but impossible to completely cover yourself to ensure a safe personal environment.
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Old 09-20-2017, 05:25 AM
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Amen on that one Joey.

I've done repairs on carriages, buggies and personal coaches of the day and had hell repairing cobbled together crap of repairs done 60 or so years later to get things back to show quality.

Doing a pick and file job on a 36 ford was the worst example. All of the bondo work needed to be removed due to rust that developed.

The customer was sure happy to find someone able to do lead, pick and file work in lieu of filler. It's a health hazard for sure as it's all but impossible to completely cover yourself to ensure a safe personal environment.
Is there a need to use lead anymore? Completely out of my knowledge base, so feel free to enlighten me. I can see why you need to remove it for rust removal, resto ect, but wouldnt bondo style body filler be a faster easier safer option?

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Old 09-20-2017, 09:23 AM
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Joints are still leaded in the body assembly area of the factory .Or were 10 years ago.
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Old 09-23-2017, 09:26 PM
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today in the cool rainy drizzley day i did some quick up hand welds on the track pins and the bolt on the draw bar. i did not even drag the grinder out because it is just a track pin, lol.

the gravitational pull in the great white north was not that much today because of the chill in the air.

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Nothing makes me smile more than looking at welds done on equipment back when the helper wrapped the rods for his boss.
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Old 09-24-2017, 06:50 AM
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but wouldnt bondo style body filler be a faster easier safer option?
Of course bondo style fillers are faster, cheaper in labor and of course safer.

I rarely if ever find rust under a leaded panel repair, but not the case with anything else.

But that does not stop a friend having me restore a license plate for one of his show cars. That 36 I spoke of took close to 800 hours to bring back to life. But now it's a 2 time Grnd Nat. at Hershey.

If the metal is prep'd to receive the lead, that bond is nothing like sticking something like thick setting bondo. As the metal heats and cools over the years, a bondo type filler will yield and absorb air which is moisture laden and dirty.

Lead filler becomes part of the panel and moves with the panel.

I've never ever been present to see a 20 year old bondo body work panel look as well as an 80 year old leaded panel.

Remember, I said 'pick and file', not slather and shave. lol

Most of the lead work I've done in the past used/needed very little if any sanding filler sprayed other than a good healthy coat of primer and top coats.

It's very time consuming, very costly to the customer and the only benefit comes from taking the car etc to a show for judging. Which gets gone over with a fine eye. Several eyes.

Knowing where to look, how to look for and what a bondo under filler sounds like are killers to a judge.

I'm getting long winded, but it irks me to no end to spend/waste any time watching these M/C or auto rebuilders on the tele, because I can bet money that these things will look like shit in a year or two.
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Old 09-24-2017, 08:12 PM
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it was my lucky day with 8 for 8 on the broken bolts on the under carriage of the td-18. thought was required on this, lol.

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When I was torching up some cars along the fence row of my place I swore
I hate lead.

Zipping along the sheetmetal, with the torch angled way over to keep
the cut going on the thin material....then BOOM, lead.

Full Stop.
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Back in the day the "Show over go" crowd in the hot rod world were looked down by the "go over show" group for driving "Lead Sleds."
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