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Old 03-31-2009, 11:38 AM
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Hello fellow SFT members I come to you looking for a recommendation for a welder for my dad. I will give some background information which I think will come in handy.

Alright well he isn't a welder by trade but a rancher (damn good one I might add ).
He wants a portable welder preferably a Miller or a Lincoln either or if fine.
Preferably a gas welder since those seem to be on the cheaper end but Diesel is also acceptable assuming price matches up.
I asked him how much he would like to spend and he said probably not go over 4 grand.
It has to be a MINIMUM of 8kw so that he can use it as a generator when needed.
Looking for a SMAW as the main welding process but if it has others that would just be a few more bells and whistles

Well that is all I can really remember from what he asked me to keep in mind as I search for a welder. I will be calling the local Praxair and another welding company since I know sometimes they sell used welders. The reason behind me asking this is I pretty fresh out of college yet (graduated last May) and have only gotten to use a handful of different welders and would like to get as many opinions on this subject as possible from those of you who have more experience and better knowledge than I do at this time.

Alright everyone that is what I know and if you have any questions please ask and I will find out asap. Thanks again
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:47 PM
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http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...ctorguide.html

I am a blue guy when it comes to welders. Now when comparing the class of machine between blue and red that your Dad is looking at there aint too much difference between them, as you get into bigger machine they do differentiate themselve more.

There are 3 Bobcat models and 3 Trailblazer models. One of the bobcat has 3-phase power available, that might be of benefit to a larger farm/ranch. There is also a Trailblazer now with built in air compressor.

All six meet the basic needs you laid out, the red machines come in comparable options.
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Old 03-31-2009, 02:03 PM
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I dont know anything about the welder in the link or the seller.
I dont know if it is 8k watt or if it has 220vac or has 115 ac

http://fargo.craigslist.org/tls/1076834128.html
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Old 03-31-2009, 02:21 PM
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Another option, probably comes down the same assembly line as the bobcats:

http://www.hobartwelders.com/product...champion10000/
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Just remember that the 3-phase Bobcat is 460V, not 240V. Useful if you have big pumps and stuff, but not usually useful for shop power.

If it's mostly for power, than any Bobcat will do fine. If it's mostly for welding, then I can't recommend the Trailblazer highly enough.
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I looked up the manual and it appears to be a 50 hz unit. It's right on the cover for the manual. So, it can't be used a general back up generator.

It's a good price as a welder.
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Wow, thanks for all the fast replies! I will be showing him all of these and see what he thinks of things. It will probably get more use as a welder but it is always good to have a good generator on hand. Kind of like today when the power was out for awhile or last week when it was out for a few days and you need the water pumps working so the cows can drink.

As a side note he said that he that he wants one that is maximum of a few years old so it can be used, just nothing to old really. Well I will inform him of these so far and see what the verdict is and keep things updated here. Thanks for the suggestions and we are always open to more
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:33 PM
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Maybe ?
Buy an old welder
And a New generator.
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Just remember that the 3-phase Bobcat is 460V, not 240V. Useful if you have big pumps and stuff, but not usually useful for shop power.

If it's mostly for power, than any Bobcat will do fine. If it's mostly for welding, then I can't recommend the Trailblazer highly enough.
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Wow, thanks for all the fast replies! I will be showing him all of these and see what he thinks of things. It will probably get more use as a welder but it is always good to have a good generator on hand. Kind of like today when the power was out for awhile or last week when it was out for a few days and you need the water pumps working so the cows can drink.

As a side note he said that he that he wants one that is maximum of a few years old so it can be used, just nothing to old really. Well I will inform him of these so far and see what the verdict is and keep things updated here. Thanks for the suggestions and we are always open to more
I will back up Mac on this one, I have a TB 302 great machine. It has never
missed a beat. List is $4927, however they sell around here $3720-3950 so
you should be able to get the similar pricing from you local dealer. New is
nice because of the warrantee. I did have one warrantee claim on my TB 302
I had the new part shipped to me the next day. I have one of the very first
302's because I actually ordered a 301G but a 302 showed up. I veiw them
as a 2 man machine. Because the generator windings and the welder
windings are separate on the machine. So you can have one man welding
and a second man grinding cutting and aux. lights all running at the same
time, and I have. The arc is as smooth as my Dynasty 300DX.
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Just remember that the 3-phase Bobcat is 460V, not 240V. Useful if you have big pumps and stuff, but not usually useful for shop power.

If it's mostly for power, than any Bobcat will do fine. If it's mostly for welding, then I can't recommend the Trailblazer highly enough.
Excuse my possible stupid question but what do you mean by " but not usually useful for shop"

Thank you
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