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Old 01-13-2018, 05:56 PM
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A friend of mine has been using Rotella T6 in every internal combustion engine he owns for years. Kioti tractor, Chevy Duramax, Suzuki Vstrom, Bulldog ATV, KIA SUV, various mowers, other 4 wheelers and on and on.

He has had zero issues. Can somebody that knows more about oil than I do please tell me why this is good or not? Sure would simplify oil purchasing and storage.
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A friend of mine has been using Rotella T6 in every internal combustion engine he owns for years. Kioti tractor, Chevy Duramax, Suzuki Vstrom, Bulldog ATV, KIA SUV, various mowers, other 4 wheelers and on and on.

He has had zero issues. Can somebody that knows more about oil than I do please tell me why this is good or not? Sure would simplify oil purchasing and storage.
Expect you will have to wait for STW to get the technical answer. Except for those that stipulate synthetic, I use it in most all of my stuff.
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A friend of mine has been using Rotella T6 in every internal combustion engine
he owns for years. Kioti tractor, Chevy Duramax, Suzuki Vstrom, Bulldog ATV,
KIA SUV, various mowers, other 4 wheelers and on and on.

He has had zero issues. Can somebody that knows more about oil than I do
please tell me why this is good or not? Sure would simplify oil purchasing and
storage.
Shell Rotella T6 is a synthetic diesel engine oil. Currently available in 5W-40
and 0W-40 viscosity grades. I am guessing some of the equipment above
does not recommend a XXW-40 engine oil. Those engines that recommend a
XXW-30 engine oil can be damaged by using a higher viscosity grade. Also it
will void any warrantee as you did not run the recommended oil specification.

OEMs build engines with particular surface finishes and tolerances. From
engine design and testing the proper viscosity grades are determined.
Running to high a viscosity can starve critical engine components of proper
lubrication resulting in higher ware to bearing surfaces and higher friction
resulting in loss of horse power. Running oil other than what the OEM
recommend is not a good practice.

He is getting lucky so far, I would not do it or recommend it, but it's not my
money.
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Old 01-14-2018, 12:21 AM
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Jesus. It can’t be about saving money if he’s ruining engines with synthetic oil.

Has he had clutch issues in the bike yet?
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Besides viscosity, will a diesel oil have the correct properties to protect a gasoline engine? What about the other way around? What is the difference in the two? And what about 30HD and 40HD? What are they for, Gasoline, diesel or both?
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I run T6 in my truck and have no desire to pay for it in anything that doesn't require it
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Besides viscosity, will a diesel oil have the correct properties to protect a gasoline engine? What about the other way around? What is the difference in the two?
In the past, the CJ-4 category was backward compatible with the SM and SL
categories. So the answer was yes you could use a diesel engine oil in a gas
engine without issue. However, I don't see the CK-4 / FA-4 categories listed
as SM or SL. But as these programs C vs. S are getting more complex and
pushing for greater fuel economy. I would expect them to diverge.

But why waste money on a diesel engine oil to use it in a gasoline engine?
Like I said it is his money not mine.

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And what about 30HD and 40HD? What are they for, Gasoline, diesel or both?
The Castrol HD oils are designed to separate you from your money.
The marketing wizards are at it again.

From the BP/Castrol website:
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Castrol® HD 30 and HD 40
A PREMIUM MONOGRADE OIL FOR WARM CLIMATES

Castrol® HD 30 and 40 are engineered to resist thermal breakdown, so you can drive confidently in warmer temperatures. They are formulated to protect your engine and provide maximum performance for passenger cars and light trucks. Castrol HD 30 should be used in ambient temperatures above 40 degrees Fahrenheit, and Castrol HD 40 performs at its best in temperatures above 60 degrees Fahrenheit.

Benefits of Castrol HD 30 AND HD 40:
•Exceeds API SM, SL and SJ performance for passenger cars and light trucks
•Formulated to surpass exceed the engine protection requirements for Ford ESE-M2C153 G and F, GM 6085M, Chrysler MS-6395M
•Provides maximum wear protection in warm climates
•Use HD 40 when ambient temperature is above 60 degrees F
Let me translate that for you, by eliminated the crap spewed by the marketing
wizards, this also goes back to my example in another thread about the guy in
Africa...

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Castrol® HD 30 and HD 40
A PREMIUM MONOGRADE OIL FOR WARM CLIMATES

Blah blah, bullshit, blah blah... performs at its best in temperatures above 60 degrees Fahrenheit.

Benefits of Castrol HD 30 AND HD 40:
•Meets API SM, SL and SJ (it is for gasoline engines but I aint goin to say it because the average fool does know what the fuck API Sx oils are for.)
•Blah blah blah blah...
•Use HD 40 when ambient temperature is above 60 degrees F
HD is just some marketing wizard putting lipstick on a pig to distract while the
part you with you money.
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A lot of guys around here are running it in bikes and ATVs. It's evidently wet clutch compatible. As far as cost goes it's on sale at Walmart here for $19 a gallon. I don't think you can buy full synthetic oil much cheaper.

His VSTROM has been to Seattle and back from TN on the T6. No issues.
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HD is just some marketing wizard putting lipstick on a pig to distract while the

part you with you money.

Hence, probably 99% of all companies and the government do to us every single day of our lives.
It’s all about how to squeeze an extra dime or nickel out of our pockets. I remember weekly manager meetings at grocery store where we all talked about how can we upsell the customer and get an extra $1 from everyone coming thru the door. It’s no coincidence that the milk is almost always at the back of the store. It is planned that way. There are people paid very well that all they do is to figure out how to get that extra sale in every cart.



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Old 01-14-2018, 12:23 PM
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I've been running Amsoil 0-40 power sport oil in my 2007 Arctic Cat. It loves the stuff. If Rotella T6 works it's about half the cost.
I've got an old Honda push mower that calls for 10-30. I think I'll try the T6 in it this summer and see what happens.
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