Shop Floor Talk  

Go Back   Shop Floor Talk > Welding and Metalworking Forums > Fabrication

SFT Search:   
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-11-2018, 04:20 PM
milomilo's Avatar
milomilo milomilo is offline
Auction Addict
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wheatland, Wyoming
Posts: 12,106
Default Bead Blaster

Been meaning to make a bead blaster since at least twice a year I have a tire that gives me trouble getting the bead to seat. Used a portable air tank and had all the fittings in the shop. Decided to braze the pipe since the wall thickness of a portable air tank is pretty thin.

Used 1" pipe and flattened the end to control the air stream. Added a rim stop to make it easier to hold the output end and keep it from going in too far and getting pinched by the tire. Leak tested the brazed pipe and all the fittings at 60#. No leaks.

I will get it painted when we get some warmer days. 40F and paint do not mix to well.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	SAM_1657.jpg
Views:	80
Size:	153.2 KB
ID:	142964   Click image for larger version

Name:	SAM_1658.jpg
Views:	81
Size:	66.4 KB
ID:	142965   Click image for larger version

Name:	SAM_1659.jpg
Views:	88
Size:	151.5 KB
ID:	142966   Click image for larger version

Name:	SAM_1660.jpg
Views:	87
Size:	156.2 KB
ID:	142967   Click image for larger version

Name:	SAM_1661.jpg
Views:	89
Size:	140.2 KB
ID:	142968  

__________________
Chris

“In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant.” Charles de Gaulle

Last edited by milomilo; 01-11-2018 at 04:29 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-11-2018, 11:06 PM
Gadgeteer's Avatar
Gadgeteer Gadgeteer is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Southern Montana
Posts: 1,635
Default

But, this looks like way more fun.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-11-2018, 11:17 PM
milomilo's Avatar
milomilo milomilo is offline
Auction Addict
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wheatland, Wyoming
Posts: 12,106
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gadgeteer View Post
But, this looks like way more fun.
I've probably done that a half dozen times in the past few years. Started using tire grease about 4 years ago. It works well, but damned messy. The blaster ought to make things a bit easier and a lot less messy. Always liked brazing. Slower than welding but much prettier.
__________________
Chris

“In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant.” Charles de Gaulle
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-12-2018, 06:42 AM
toprecycler's Avatar
toprecycler toprecycler is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Petoskey, Michigan
Posts: 2,727
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gadgeteer View Post
But, this looks like way more fun.


That is much more fun. I have had good luck with that in the past. But I guess I was not using enough couple days ago on a skid loader tire. Tried it several times, but would not go blow up. I was using about same amount as the summer time and was thinking that the colder weather inhibited the flame up. I had to fight with a strap and finally got it.

I remember something about tire grease, and tried doing a search but did not find anything. What makes the tire grease different from regular grease?




Sent from my iPhone using ShopFloorTalk mobile app
__________________
Brian

You don't know what you don't know.

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts." John Wooden
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-12-2018, 07:53 AM
Matt Shade's Avatar
Matt Shade Matt Shade is offline
Made From Scratch
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,343
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by toprecycler View Post

I remember something about tire grease, and tried doing a search but did not find anything. What makes the tire grease different from regular grease?




Sent from my iPhone using ShopFloorTalk mobile app
Most people use Murphy's Tire Soap. It sort of looks like a big bucket of snot, but its just the right consistency to seal a bead and is pretty harmless to work with. I think normal grease like you would use to pack bearings would be bad for rubber, and it would be very expensive. A 25lb bucket of murphy's is maybe $40.
__________________
Handcrafted Leather
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-12-2018, 09:50 AM
MetalWolf's Avatar
MetalWolf MetalWolf is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Wilson Co. Texas
Posts: 502
Default

Nice build Chris....

The bead blaster makes quick work out of it over the tire soap I'm not fond of tire soap for a few reasons...but Chris is rite the bead blaster is less mess by far. It will also blow and help seat the bead on tires when the air injector on a tire machine will not on stubborn tire.

I use something similar but it's not portable its just a 25ft. one inch hose connected to my 60 gallon compressor with a valve on tank and bead gun on end.. works for the stuff around here mostly comes in handy for those stubborn ATV and garden tractor tires
__________________
..Randall.......Peace!

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to
do nothing." -Edmund Burke-
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-12-2018, 09:59 AM
Matt Shade's Avatar
Matt Shade Matt Shade is offline
Made From Scratch
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,343
Default

We had a commercially made "Cheetah Tank" when I was mechanic at the sod farm, and a bunch of "drivers" that liked to run things over. I was changing semi tires or forklift tires 3 or 4 times a week (one guy came back with a forklift tire riding shotgun in the cab of the truck with the rim still in place,but the face of the wheel still bolted to the hub of the lift). The tank was great and most of the time it would work with no soap. I recommend eye and ear protection when you're messing with this stuff.

I do remember one time that a guy mangled a steer tire on his truck so it was vibrating a lot and I was told to put it on the trailer, and put a new tire on the truck. Between whatever he did to it, and then having to dismount and mount it on a different rim the bead just didn't want to seat. Finally broke down and used the murphy's soap AND the cheater tank. That was a fucking mess....
__________________
Handcrafted Leather
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-12-2018, 10:03 AM
USMCPOP's Avatar
USMCPOP USMCPOP is offline
Gold Star Dad
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Richmond, VA area
Posts: 11,435
Default

My son made a potato cannon from a 20 lb propane tank and a 10 foot steel pipe. He found a pneumatic dump valve cheap on ebay. The fast-acting one used for blowing out ducts and whatnot. Maybe 1 1/2" ID. Scary.
__________________
USMCPOP
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-12-2018, 10:12 AM
digger doug's Avatar
digger doug digger doug is offline
Not to be used as a Flotation Device
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NW Pa
Posts: 9,790
Default

I see OTC makes a larger unit, with the tank on wheels.

Interesting, the valve is a common fuel dispenser valve, you can get the
1" npt non auto-shutoff one at TSC pretty cheaply.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...n?cm_vc=-10005
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-12-2018, 10:22 AM
milomilo's Avatar
milomilo milomilo is offline
Auction Addict
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wheatland, Wyoming
Posts: 12,106
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by toprecycler View Post
That is much more fun. I have had good luck with that in the past. But I guess I was not using enough couple days ago on a skid loader tire. Tried it several times, but would not go blow up. I was using about same amount as the summer time and was thinking that the colder weather inhibited the flame up. I had to fight with a strap and finally got it.

I remember something about tire grease, and tried doing a search but did not find anything. What makes the tire grease different from regular grease?




Sent from my iPhone using ShopFloorTalk mobile app
Tire grease is not petroleum based so safe for rubber.
__________________
Chris

“In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant.” Charles de Gaulle
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Web Search:

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.